Lorentz invariance of [itex] E_p \delta ({\bf p}- {\bf q}) [/itex]

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The discussion centers around the Lorentz invariance of the expression \( E_p \delta ({\bf p}- {\bf q}) \) within the context of quantum field theory (QFT). Participants explore the implications of Lorentz transformations on delta functions and energy-momentum relations, examining the conditions under which the expression can be considered invariant.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks assistance in proving that \( E_p \delta ({\bf p}- {\bf q}) \) is Lorentz invariant, noting complications arising from a boost along the z-axis.
  • Another participant questions the assumption of Lorentz invariance, prompting further clarification.
  • A participant explains that in QFT, a normalization is chosen to ensure scalar product invariance, suggesting that the four-dimensional delta function \( \delta^4(p - p_0) \) is Lorentz invariant.
  • It is proposed that the expression can be rewritten in terms of the invariant norm \( p^2 = m^2 \), and that the delta function \( \delta(p^2 - m^2) \) is Lorentz invariant.
  • Concerns are raised about the original expression's invariance, with a participant asserting that including \( \delta(p^2 - m^2) \) is necessary for Lorentz invariance.
  • Another participant highlights that while \( \delta(p^2 - m^2) \) is Lorentz invariant, \( \delta^3(k - k_0) \) is not, as it defines a specific rest frame.
  • It is noted that the product of \( \delta(p^2 - m^2) \) and \( \delta^3(k - k_0) \) results in a Lorentz invariant domain when considering their intersection.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the Lorentz invariance of the original expression, with some asserting it is not invariant without additional terms, while others argue that certain formulations can achieve invariance. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the specific conditions under which the expression is invariant.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the need for careful treatment of variables and the implications of different forms of delta functions, indicating potential limitations in the assumptions made about the invariance of the expressions discussed.

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Can anybody help me with the proof that E_p \delta ({\bf p}- {\bf q}) is a Lorentz invariant object?

I did a boost along z axes and used the formula \delta (f(x)) = \frac{\delta(x-x_0)}{|f'(x_0)|} and the factor in front of the delta function indeed is invariant but within the function I have something like this:

E_p \delta (p_z -(v(E_q-E_p)+q_z))

but not E_p \delta (p_z- q_z)

Thanks.
 
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Nobody? :(
 


What makes you think it's Lorentz invariant?
 
Because in QFT we specifically choose a normalization in such a way as to get scalar product invariant.
 
Ok, now I understand! To distinguish between 3-dimensional and 4-dimensional quantities, let me call the energy-momentum 4-vector p, with components (E, k) and invariant norm p2 = m2.

To begin with, the 4-dimensional delta function δ4(p - p0) is clearly Lorentz invariant. Write this as δ(E - E0) δ3(k - k0). And now change variables on the first factor. In place of the variable E, I want to use the variable p2. Well, one can show that δ(p2 - m2) = (1/2E0) δ(E - E0). [There's a second term with δ(E + E0) if you want to include the negative energies.]

This gives us δ4(p - p0) = 2E0 δ(p2 - m2) δ3(k - k0), which is Lorentz invariant.
 
Thank you, I got it. I made a mistake in calculation.
 
That's good. By the way, the expression as you originally gave it is not Lorentz invariant. Only if you include the other delta function, δ(p2 - m2). And the variable you choose to replace E makes all the difference too. If you use some other f(E), you'll get something else instead of 2E0 as the factor in front.
 
But \delta (p^2-m^2) is Lorentz invariant.
 
Consider the domain where these functions are nonzero. δ4(p - p0) is nonzero at just a single point - of course that's a Lorentz invariant domain. And δ(p2 - m2) is nonzero on a hyperboloid - that's Lorentz invariant too.

But δ3(k - k0) is nonzero on an entire line - and that's not Lorentz invariant! It singles out a rest frame. And putting E0 in front of it doesn't change the fact.

It's only when you multiply the two of them together, δ(p2 - m2) and δ3(k - k0) -- then the product is nonzero on the intersection of the line and the hyperboloid, namely a single point again -- that you get back to a Lorentz invariant domain.
 

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