Discussion Overview
The discussion revolves around the magnitude slope of low-pass filters (LPF) and high-pass filters (HPF), specifically addressing why it is commonly assumed to be 20dB/decade from the corner frequency onwards. Participants explore the mathematical foundations and implications of this assumption, as well as the behavior of different types of filters.
Discussion Character
- Technical explanation
- Conceptual clarification
- Debate/contested
Main Points Raised
- Some participants explain that the -20dB/decade slope is derived from the transfer function of the filter, specifically noting that each pole contributes to this slope.
- It is noted that a single-pole LPF has a transfer function that results in a -20dB/decade slope, while a two-pole LPF results in a -40dB/decade slope.
- One participant discusses the logarithmic nature of the slope, emphasizing that the use of 20log instead of 10log is due to the relationship between voltage and power.
- Another participant mentions that the assumption of a 20dB/decade slope is a shorthand for approximating the frequency response asymptotically, though this may not hold true near the corner frequency.
- Concerns are raised about the variability of the actual slope depending on filter design and components, suggesting that the slope may not always be exactly 20dB/decade.
Areas of Agreement / Disagreement
Participants express a general understanding of the 20dB/decade slope for first-order filters, but there is no consensus on the variability of this slope in different filter designs or the implications of the assumptions made in deriving it.
Contextual Notes
Some participants highlight that the assumptions made in deriving the slope may not hold true in all cases, particularly near the corner frequency where the actual response may deviate from the asymptotic approximation.