'lucifer, Prometheus & QuÉtzalcoatl'

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The discussion centers on the intersection of mythology, religion, and the UFO phenomenon, with participants asserting the reality of UFOs and exploring their implications. The conversation references various trickster deities, such as Lucifer, Prometheus, and Quetzalcoatl, who are portrayed as figures that challenge divine authority and bring knowledge or enlightenment to humanity, often facing vilification for their actions. Participants debate the philosophical implications of knowledge versus ignorance, questioning whether humanity would be better off in a state of blissful ignorance or with the burdens of knowledge and free will. The discussion also touches on biblical references, particularly the Nephilim and the concept of fallen angels, suggesting that many ancient myths may have connections to extraterrestrial beings. Overall, the thread examines how these narratives shape human understanding of good and evil, control, and the nature of existence.
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  • #32
Originally posted by Jonathan
Here are all the suppossed names of, um, well, whoever we're talking about:

scared to say supreme evil
I guess my point is that while Prometeus and Quetzalcoatl have some things in common (both gave men fire, knowledge, whatever; both fought the gods), the reference to Lucifer from the OT was thrown in the article just to make it longer (IMO).
 
  • #33
my knowledge of egyptian mythology is rather weak, but I've heard that thoth gave man writing (or perhaps language).

is that what you've heard?

was thoth ever punished or vilified for giving man a gift?
 
  • #34
Thoth was the God responsible for giving man music, math writing, astronomy and couple of other things too according to ancient egyptian mythology. He was never "punished" because he was a God not a man or an angel therefor he had the right to give man those gifts.
 
  • #35
Originally posted by Guybrush Threepwood
All I'm saying is thet Lucifer is only once mentioned in the Bible (that is where phoenix found it). You don't find that name mentioned here (Revelations 12:9).
Yes I may not want to interpret the Bible as all the world does (knows) but IMO, the guy who wrote the article (see the first post) has some ideas, but he also is looking for sensational stories.

Also, if you look at the bottom of the linked page, you will see that he is selling books...of course, isn't everyone? I have heard of people in his position exploring their own ideas through novels; so this alone is not reason to ignore his suggestions. Clark did this to the extent that he actually invented the communications satellite concept - thus the Clark Belt.
 
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  • #36
Guybrush Threepwood: (Man that's a weird name), I'm not scared to say supreme evil, it was supposed to be a joke, you know, since we are talking about someone, what his name is, who he is, and are doing so because we are unsure of his identity, which makes it hard to form the sentence in the way I did, because I would have to pick a name to call him. I thought I was funny anyway.
 
  • #37
Originally posted by Jonathan
Guybrush Threepwood: (Man that's a weird name)

you can do a search on the net... you'll see I'm famous
 
  • #38
How have I not heard of him? I don't get it, I went to several sites and they didn't say much. Is he a cartoon or video game character?
 
  • #39
Will our descendants several thousand years from now see our 'temporary' obsession with ET as folklore and legend?

The whole point of religion is one of control. To illustrate this, as the Bible does, God Himself casts out some of His own when they disobeyed. What hope, then, is there for mortal man?

administrating fear = divine control

Every culture has it's own religious poles. Good versus evil. Light against darkness. It's a common thread. The point is, how do we calibrate goodness without the presence of evil as a guide?

The 'invention' of evil characters being cast out by goodly gods only serves the purpose of men in high religious offices. Remember, up until the last two centuries, the whole world was governed by religion.

legends of evil spirits = old-day propaganda

I think an add-on to 'ignorance is bliss and knowledge is power' should be:

and the fear of thy Maker is absolute control.
 

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