M2215b.08 Find the volume of the solid (shell meithod)

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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of a solid generated by revolving the curve defined by \( y = \sin(x^2) \) from \( x = 0 \) to \( x = \frac{\pi}{2} \) about the y-axis. Participants explore the cylindrical shell method and also consider the washer method for calculating the volume.

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  • One participant proposes using the cylindrical shell method with the integral \( V = \int_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}} 2\pi x \sin(x^2) \, dx \).
  • Another participant questions the limits of integration and suggests a correction to the integral form.
  • There is a repeated mention of the integrand needing to be corrected after adjusting the limits, indicating some confusion in the setup.
  • A later reply provides a corrected integral \( V = \pi \int_0^{\frac{\pi}{2}} \sin(x^2) 2x \, dx \) and evaluates it, leading to a numerical approximation.
  • Another participant introduces the washer method as an alternative approach to verify the volume calculation, presenting a different integral setup.
  • There is a discussion about distributing constants correctly in the volume expression, indicating a potential oversight in earlier calculations.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the best method for calculating the volume, as different approaches (cylindrical shell method vs. washer method) are presented and debated. There is also uncertainty regarding the correct setup of integrals and limits.

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Some participants express uncertainty about the correctness of the integrands and limits used in their calculations, indicating that assumptions may not be fully clarified. The discussion reflects ongoing refinements and corrections without resolving the overall approach.

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$\tiny{M2215b.08}$
Find the volume of the solid
\begin{align*}\displaystyle y&=\sin (x^2)\\ 0&\le x \le \frac{\pi}{2}\\
\end{align*}
about the y-axis
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ok this looks like a cylindrical Shell solution
So I set it up like this,,,,, hopefully

$\begin{align*}\displaystyle
V&=\int_0^12\pi x\left(\sin x^2\right)\ dx\\
\end{align*}$
 

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Examine your limits of integration more closely...:)
 
\begin{align*}\displaystyle V&=\int_0^{\pi/2} x\left(\sin x^2\right)\ dx\\ \end{align*}
 
karush said:
\begin{align*}\displaystyle V&=\int_0^{\pi/2} x\left(\sin x^2\right)\ dx\\ \end{align*}

Now, reverse the change you made to the integrand...
 
this?
$x=\sqrt{\sin^{-1}\left(y\right)}$
 
karush said:
this?
$x=\sqrt{\sin^{-1}\left(y\right)}$

You originally had the integrand correct, but when you corrected the limits, you changed the integrand such that the integral was still incorrect overall. You want:

$$V=\pi\int_0^{\Large{\frac{\pi}{2}}} \sin\left(x^2\right)2x\,dx$$
 
\begin{align*}\displaystyle
V&=\pi\int_0^{\Large{\frac{\pi}{2}}} \sin\left(x^2\right)2x\,dx\\
&= \pi\Biggr|-\cos(x^2)\Biggr|_0^{\pi/2}\\
&=\pi\Biggr|-\cos((\pi^2/4))
+\cos(0)\Biggr|\\
&=\pi[-\cos((\pi^2/4))+1]\\
&=\pi-\cos((\pi^2/4))\approx5.5958
\end{align*}

hopefully!
 
Let's check your result using the washer method:

$$V=\pi\left(\int_0^{\sin\left(\frac{\pi^2}{4}\right)} \frac{\pi^2}{4}-\arcsin(y)\,dy+\int_{\sin\left(\frac{\pi^2}{4}\right)}^{1} \left(\pi-\arcsin(y)\right)-\arcsin(y)\,dy\right)$$

Letting W|A do the grunt work...

$$V=\pi\left(1-\cos\left(\frac{\pi^2}{4}\right)\right)$$

This is presumably what you got, although you didn't distribute $\pi$ to both terms.
 
ok yes I think I distributed it on the practice test7

thank for your help again
 

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