Magic Numbers in the Nucleus: Fact vs. Fiction

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of magic numbers in atomic nuclei, specifically addressing the uncertainty surrounding which numbers are considered "magic" and the implications of different models in nuclear physics. Participants express confusion regarding the validity of specific magic numbers, such as 114 and 126, and explore the complexities involved in identifying these numbers.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the identification of magic numbers, noting discrepancies between a lecturer's claim of 114 and other sources citing 126.
  • Another participant comments on the complexity of magic numbers, suggesting that both 114 and 126 could be considered "a bit" magic, indicating potential inaccuracies in existing models.
  • It is mentioned that 126 is well-established for neutrons, but large deformed nuclei might exhibit different magic numbers.
  • A humorous reference to the number 42 is made, though it does not directly relate to the topic of magic numbers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the magic numbers, with multiple competing views and uncertainties remaining regarding their validity and the models used to determine them.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in the current understanding of magic numbers, including the dependence on specific models and the potential for different magic numbers in various nuclear configurations.

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I am really not sure and do not understand how you find out what are the magic numbers in case of nucleus. Here in leson

lecturer said that magic number is ##114##, and in other resourses I find number ##126##? Do we have any real confirmation of this?
 
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Magic numbers get more messy with increasing number of protons or neutrons. It is possible that both are "a bit" magic, or that one model is not very accurate.
126 seems to be well-established (for neutrons only of course), large deformed nuclei might have other magic numbers.

@rootone: Magic numbers
 
Thanks mfb.
Still 42 could be the ultimate answer to life, the universe, and everything.
'Deep thought' announced that the ultimate answer was indeed 42, but the audience would not like that.
Because they had not provided it with the ultimate question.
 
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