Can Charged Particles in a Magnetic Field Create Lift Like a Balloon?

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The discussion centers on the feasibility of using charged particles in a magnetic field to create lift, akin to a balloon filled with hot air or helium. Participants clarify that while a moving electric charge generates a magnetic field, this field does not contain charged particles. The concept of plasma is mentioned as a potential area of interest, although it is concluded that the proposed idea lacks practical application. The analogy of lightning and its effects on air ionization is also referenced, emphasizing the complexities involved.

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Hello there all, I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to a couple of these subjects but i was wondering if there is a particle of some sort that could be energized with an electrical charge and when this electrical charge passes through these particles it could make them act like hot air or helium but instead of a balloon containing these charged particles it's a magnetic field which would cause lift perhaps? I'm not sure, that is why i came here can anybody help me?
 
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I don't think so unless there might be some exotic example.

a particle of some sort that could be energized with an electrical charge

This means adding or removing electrons...

...this electrical charge passes through these particles it could make them act like hot air or helium but instead of a balloon containing these charged particles it's a magnetic field

a moving electric charge always has an associated magnetic field...like around a current carrying conductor...but the magnetic field does not in general "contain charged particles" anymore than does the magnetic field of a magnet.

consider lightning: it does a lot of stuff, like ionizing air into charged particles, has a magnetic field associated with the flow of charge, creates sound (thunder, a sonic phenomena)...but if I understand your posted description, doesn't provide THAT.
 
After I posted my reply , I wondered if aspects of a plasma might relate to your question:
(I don't think so, but maybe it will give your some insights.)

See for yourself: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plasma_(physics )
 
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Just batting around an idea, if one had a sharpened needle well inside a balloon envelope and charged it strongly, you would put charge into the air inside, and since like charges repel, you would see a tiny flow of charged air out of the balloon (assuming it was open at the bottom), however the resulting reduced air pressure inside would cause a volume reduction in the balloon.

So, that doesn't help.

LOL, interesting question.
 

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