Magnetic dipole moment derivation

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of the magnetic dipole moment, specifically focusing on the approximation of the term 1/R using Taylor polynomials. Participants explore mathematical expressions and substitutions related to this approximation.

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  • One participant expresses difficulty in understanding how to approximate 1/R using Taylor polynomials, referencing equations from a blog.
  • Another participant provides a mathematical expression involving the square root of a sum of squares and suggests a substitution to simplify the expression.
  • A participant requests the Taylor expansion for the expression provided, indicating a need for further clarification.
  • A later reply suggests a substitution to simplify the expression further and encourages looking up examples of Taylor series for additional context.

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The discussion does not reach a consensus, as participants are exploring different aspects of the Taylor expansion and its application without resolving the initial difficulty expressed.

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Participants are working with mathematical approximations and substitutions, but there are no explicit assumptions or limitations discussed regarding the context of the Taylor series application.

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Hi. I am having a problem with understanding how to approximate 1/R in the forms of equations written above.

I took this equations from a blog, and it tells that I can use talyor polynomial. but I don't get there somehow.
 
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$$
\sqrt{(x-x')^2+(y-y')^2+z^2} \approx \sqrt{x^2+y^2+z^2-2xx'-2yy'}
$$
where the terms square in ##x'## and ##y'## have been omitted. Then make substitution ##r^2 = x^2+y^2+z^2##,
$$
r\sqrt{1-2\frac{x}{r^2}x'-2\frac{y}{r^2}y'}
$$
and apply Taylor expansion truncating the third term.
 
blue_leaf77 said:
$$
\sqrt{(x-x')^2+(y-y')^2+z^2} \approx \sqrt{x^2+y^2+z^2-2xx'-2yy'}
$$
where the terms square in ##x'## and ##y'## have been omitted. Then make substitution ##r^2 = x^2+y^2+z^2##,
$$
r\sqrt{1-2\frac{x}{r^2}x'-2\frac{y}{r^2}y'}
$$
and apply Taylor expansion truncating the third term.

Hello, I am really sorry but could you provide me the taylor expansion of it?
 
To simplify the appearance, you can make the substitution ##-2\frac{x}{r^2}x'-2\frac{y}{r^2}y' = u## so that
$$
r\sqrt{1-2\frac{x}{r^2}x'-2\frac{y}{r^2}y'} = r(1+u)^p
$$
where ##p=1/2##. Now look up online or in your textbook examples of Taylor series, especially the series which corresponds to a form ##(1+u)^p## with ##|u|<1## as is the case here.
 
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blue_leaf77 said:
To simplify the appearance, you can make the substitution ##-2\frac{x}{r^2}x'-2\frac{y}{r^2}y' = u## so that
$$
r\sqrt{1-2\frac{x}{r^2}x'-2\frac{y}{r^2}y'} = r(1+u)^p
$$
where ##p=1/2##. Now look up online or in your textbook examples of Taylor series, especially the series which corresponds to a form ##(1+u)^p## with ##|u|<1## as is the case here.
Thanks. I got it!
 

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