Magnetic field due to two loops

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnetic field produced by two circular loops, focusing on the contributions from each loop and the implications of rotating one of the loops. Participants are exploring the principles of magnetic fields in the context of electromagnetism.

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  • Participants discuss the addition of magnetic fields from two loops and question the validity of their calculations. There are inquiries about the effects of rotating one loop and how it influences the direction of the magnetic field. Some participants express uncertainty regarding the formulas used for calculating the magnetic field.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning the assumptions behind the formulas. There is acknowledgment of different interpretations of the equations, particularly regarding the angle Φ and its relevance to the magnetic field calculations.

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Participants are navigating potential discrepancies in their calculations and the definitions of terms used in the context of magnetic fields. There is a mention of the formula's applicability to circular arcs versus full loops, indicating a need for clarity on these concepts.

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In Fig. 29-45, two concentric circular loops of wire carrying current in the same direction lie in the same plane. Loop 1 has radius 1.50 cm and carries 4.00 mA. Loop 2 has radius 2.50 cm and carries 6.00 mA. Loop 2 is to be rotated about a diameter while the net magnetic field B set up by the two loops at their common center is measured. Through what angle must loop 2 be rotated so that the magnitude of that net field is 100 nT?
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B = (μ * Φ * i)/(4*π*r) magnetic field due to circular loop.
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My attempt is the magnetic field due to loop1 and loop2 should get added
The magnetic field due to loop1 is
B1 =(μ0 * Φ * i)/(4*π*r) = (4*π*(2*π)*0.004) /(4 *π*0.015) = 1670nT.
I assumed this value should be less than 100nT. What is the reason?
The other question is "Loop 2 is to be rotated about a diameter?" Even if i rotate by any angle Φ will always be 2π as long as it is complete circle. Am I correct? Please advise.
 
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The magnetic fields are vector quantities. When you rotate loop 2, what happens to the direction of B2?
 
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Using the formula for the magnetic field at the center of a circular loop (see http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/curloo.html):
$$B = \frac{\mu_o I}{2 R}$$
I found ##B_1## to be 167.5 nT.

So, not sure what happened in your calculation. I haven't seen the form of equation you've used before (with the ##\Phi## term).
 
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gneill said:
I haven't seen the form of equation you've used before (with the ##\Phi## term).
I had to think about that, too. I believe the formula given in the first post is for finding B at the center of a circular arc that subtends an angle Φ. The full circular loop is a special case.
 
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TSny said:
I had to think about that, too. I believe the formula given in the first post is for finding B at the center of a circular arc that subtends an angle Φ. The full circular loop is a special case.
Ah! That makes sense! Thanks for doing my thinking for me :smile:
 
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