Magnetic Field, finding the current

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves a straight copper wire that is floating in the Earth's magnetic field, and the objective is to determine the current flowing through the wire. The context includes the wire's diameter, the magnetic field strength, and the density of copper.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the forces acting on the wire and how to calculate the mass and volume of the wire. There are questions about how to find the volume given the diameter and the lack of a specified length.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on using the formula for the volume of a cylinder and noted the importance of unit consistency. There is an exploration of the idea that the length may not need to be known to solve for the current, as it could cancel out in the equations.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the need to work with given dimensions and the implications of the wire's floating condition. There is a mention of choosing an arbitrary length to simplify calculations.

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Homework Statement


A straight 2.47 -mm-diameter copper wire can just 'float' horizontally in air because of the force of the Earth's magnetic field B, which is horizontal, perpendicular to the wire, and of magnitude 5 x 10-5 T. What current I does the wire carry? (The density of copper is 8.96 g/cm3).
HELP: The wire feels a downward gravitational force of magnitude mg, where m is mass and g = 9.80 m/s2 is the gravitational field strength near the Earth's surface.

Homework Equations


F=lIB
Gravitational force=mg

The Attempt at a Solution


Okay, I know /how/ to do this except for one step. I know that I need to find the force using the equation above. Simple enough, except that I don't know how to find the mass. I know that the mass is the density multipled by the volume. However, I don't know how to find the volume with the information I'm given. If someone could just help me out with that little bit, that would be fantastic!
 
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What value did you use for the length in F=lIB?

You can find the volume (assuming a cylindrical wire) by using pi*r^2*length

Be careful of your units - remember you are given 2.47 mm diameter. and the density you are given is in g/cm^3
 
Okay, I suppose you didn't understand what I said.
I haven't solved for the current yet because I don't know the force because I don't know the volume.

I don't know the length so I can't find the volume using that formula. I was hoping someone could point out to me a way ti find the mass either without using volume or a way to find the volume with the information provided.
 
OK, we'll go back to the beginning.

In order for it to "float" the Upwards force needs to equal the downwards force:

lIB = mg

You know that m = rho*V

You also know that V = pi*r^2*l

Do a bit of simple algebra and you'll see that you don't need to know a length - it cancels out.

Rearrange what you have and solve for I.

Once again, be careful with units.
 
GDGirl said:
Okay, I suppose you didn't understand what I said.
I haven't solved for the current yet because I don't know the force because I don't know the volume.

I don't know the length so I can't find the volume using that formula. I was hoping someone could point out to me a way ti find the mass either without using volume or a way to find the volume with the information provided.

Simply choose 1 m as the length. That should give you a force / meter.
 
that worked out perfectly, thank you! :)
 

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