Magnetic Field involving solenoids

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The discussion centers on the magnetic field behavior of two long ideal solenoids, one with a radius of 20 mm and the other with a radius of 30 mm, both carrying the same number of turns per unit length. It is concluded that the current in the inner solenoid must be equal and opposite to that of the outer solenoid for the magnetic field within the inner solenoid to be zero. Therefore, the correct answer is E: the current in the inner solenoid is the same as the current in the outer solenoid. This conclusion is derived from the formula B = μ_o * i * n, where the radius does not influence the magnetic field inside the inner solenoid.

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Homework Statement



Two long ideal solenoids (with radii 20 mm and 30 mm respectively) carry the same number of turnes of wire per unit length. The smaller solenoid is mounted inside the larger, along a common axis. It is observed that the magnetic field within the inner solenoid is zero. The current in the inner solenoid must be:

A. two-thirds the current in the outer solenoid
B. one-third the current in the outer solenoid
C. twice the current in the outer solenoid
D. half the current in the outer solenoid
E. the same as the current in the outer solenoid

This one is hard. If you could please provide an explanation with the answer so I could better understand this.
THanks in advance.

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The Attempt at a Solution



Right now I'm ruling out answer A.
 
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Hi McAfee! :smile:
McAfee said:
Two long ideal solenoids (with radii 20 mm and 30 mm respectively) carry the same number of turnes of wire per unit length. The smaller solenoid is mounted inside the larger, along a common axis. It is observed that the magnetic field within the inner solenoid is zero.

Call the currents I and J.

Hint: what is the formula for the magnetic field inside a current-carrying solenoid?

And can we just add the fields?
 
tiny-tim said:
Hi McAfee! :smile:Call the currents I and J.

Hint: what is the formula for the magnetic field inside a current-carrying solenoid?

And can we just add the fields?

The formula is B = μ_o*i*n

n is the number of turns
and yes
 
yup! :smile:

so what's the total equation, and is it A B C D or E ? :wink:
 
20mm = .02
30mm = .03

assuming that I can ignore n because it will be the same for both.
Would it be E because the radii doesn't play a role in the equation?
 
sorry, i missed your post :redface:
McAfee said:
assuming that I can ignore n because it will be the same for both.
Would it be E because the radii doesn't play a role in the equation?

yes the radii don't matter,

so if (case E) the currents are equal (and opposite), then the magnetic field inside the inner solenoid will be zero :smile:
 

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