Magnetic field of a wire with current running through it

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnetic field generated by an infinitely long wire carrying a current, specifically in the context of given points in a three-dimensional coordinate system. Participants are examining the effects of an existing magnetic field and how to combine it with the field produced by the wire.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants are considering the use of the Biot-Savart Law to determine the magnetic field due to the wire, questioning how to properly account for the geometry involved, such as the distance from the wire to the points of interest.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants exploring various equations and concepts related to the magnetic field of a long straight wire. There is a recognition of the need to integrate over the wire's length and to consider the vector nature of the magnetic field, but no consensus has been reached on the specific approach or resolution of the problem.

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Participants are navigating potential issues with infinite values in their calculations and are discussing the implications of vector components in their equations. There is an acknowledgment of the need to apply geometric considerations when calculating distances in the context of the magnetic field.

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on an x,y,z axis i have a wire with infinite length placed on the z axis with a current of 2A running through it downwards, in addition i have a magnetic field of 2*10-7T in the Y+ direction, what is the magnetic firld at
A(1,0,0)
B(0,1,0)
C(-1,0,0)

i know that my field at each point must be the sum of the fields at the points, so it will be 2*10-7T*Y + the field of the wire,


what equation cani use to find the field of an endless wire??
 
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Dell said:
what equation cani use to find the field of an endless wire??

You tell us! :wink:

you'll have to integrate over ds from -∞ to +∞ :smile:
 
i thought that might be it, using Biot-Savart Law?

dB=μ0I/(4∏)*dlxr/r3
but since the wire is 90 degrees to r
dB=μ0I/(4∏)*dl/r2

B=∫μ0I/(4∏)*dl/r2
B=μ0I/(4∏r2)*∫dl

but that will give me infinity?
 
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?? :confused:

you haven't included the variation in distance (use Pythagoras)

(oooh … and have a small pi: π :wink:)

EDIT: hello Redbelly! o:)
 
The wire is not at 90 degrees to r everywhere:

http://electron9.phys.utk.edu/phys136d/modules/m7/images/dl.gif

That being said ... doesn't your textbook discuss the magnetic field of a long straight wire?
 
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so would i say r=sqrt(1+L^2) ??

dB=μ0I/(4∏)*dL/(1+L^2)
 
Dell said:
so would i say r=sqrt(1+L^2) ??

dB=μ0I/(4∏)*dL/(1+L^2)

yes, except these are vectors, so you need a cosine in there, don't you? :wink:
 
tiny-tim said:
yes, except these are vectors, so you need a cosine in there, don't you? :wink:

Or perhaps a sine?

p.s. Hello tiny-tim :smile:
 

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