Magnetic field produced at point P

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The discussion revolves around deriving an expression for the magnetic field produced at point P by a current-carrying wire, as illustrated in a referenced figure. The problem involves understanding the contributions of different segments of the wire to the magnetic field at a specific point.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the right-hand rule to determine the direction of the magnetic field at point P. There is uncertainty regarding the book's assertion that the field points out of the page, with some participants expressing confusion about this conclusion based on their own reasoning.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their interpretations and questioning the validity of the book's answer. Suggestions have been made to seek clarification from an instructor, indicating a productive direction for resolving the confusion.

Contextual Notes

Participants note discrepancies between their reasoning and the instructor's manual, highlighting a potential misunderstanding or miscommunication regarding the magnetic field's direction. There is an emphasis on the contributions of different wire segments to the overall magnetic field at point P.

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Homework Statement


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Its question 26, and the figure can be seen at figure 30.26

Derive and expression for the magnetic field produced at point P due to the current carrying wire shown in figure 30.26. The curved parts of the wire are pieces of concentric circles. Point P is at the center.

Homework Equations



b = \mu IR^2 / (2)(R^2 +y^2)^{3/2}

The Attempt at a Solution



Ok so in the above eq setting y = 0, I get

b = - (\Theta /2pi) * ( \mu I /2R_1 )
(\Theta /2pi) because we are only looking at a portion (\Theta /2pi) of a circle.
for the wire closest to the point P.

I say the magnetic field is going INSIDE the page at point p, which means -z axis, but my book is telling me the field is out of the page.

Is my book wrong here? I don't see how, using the simple right hand rule, the field could possibly be pointing out of the page.
 
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Rijad Hadzic said:
I don't see how, using the simple right hand rule, the field could possibly be pointing out of the page.
I don't see it either. The outer arc generates a field that is out of the page that is weaker because its radius is larger. The straight segments, of course, generate no field at point P.
 
kuruman said:
I don't see it either. The outer arc generates a field that is out of the page that is weaker because its radius is larger. The straight segments, of course, generate no field at point P.
Yup. And this answer is coming from the instructors manual for this book. Such a shame. Maybe someone will find the trick? (if there is one?)
 
Rijad Hadzic said:
Yup. And this answer is coming from the instructors manual for this book. Such a shame. Maybe someone will find the trick? (if there is one?)
You may wish to take your solution to your instructor and ask what's going on.
 
kuruman said:
You may wish to take your solution to your instructor and ask what's going on.
Yup that's what I'm going to have to do...
 

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