Magnetic force on moving charge

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The discussion centers on the behavior of magnetic fields (MF) and their interaction with moving charged particles. It clarifies that the magnetic force exerted on a charge is always perpendicular to both the charge's velocity and the magnetic field lines, as defined by the Lorentz force law. The conversation also highlights the distinction between the alignment of magnetic dipoles in materials and the forces acting on moving charges, emphasizing the role of Biot-Savart's law and the magnetic dipole moment. Understanding these principles is crucial for grasping the dynamics of magnetic fields and their effects on charged particles.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Lorentz force and its implications on moving charges
  • Familiarity with Biot-Savart's law and magnetic dipole moments
  • Knowledge of magnetic field lines and their representation of magnetic forces
  • Basic principles of electromagnetism and charge behavior in magnetic fields
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  • Study the mathematical formulation of the Lorentz force law
  • Explore the applications of Biot-Savart's law in electromagnetic theory
  • Investigate the properties of ferromagnetic, paramagnetic, and diamagnetic materials
  • Learn about the implications of magnetic field interactions in electrical engineering
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Physics students, electrical engineers, and anyone interested in the principles of electromagnetism and the behavior of charged particles in magnetic fields.

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I assume the field lines represent the strength of magnetic field and show the direction of magnetic force. So if we put iron filings on paper with magnet near by, then fillings will arrange themselfs in such way to show the direction of the magnetic forces on these iron fillings.


And here is the confusing part: When learning about moving charged particles inside MF, suddenly magnetic force on this charge is perpendicular to magnetic field lines ( and these lines BTW represent magnetic force ).

Why if an object such as another magnet or steel enters MF, magnetic forces represented by magnetic field lines act on this object, but when charge enters MF, the magnetic force represented by magnetic field lines doesn't act on charge, but instead new force is created that acts on this charge and direction of this force is different than direction of magnetic forces represented by magnetic field lines ( this new force is only created if charge is not moving parallel with magnetic field lines )? In short, why does magnetic field behave differently depending on whether a charge of stell enters inside it?
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Is this force exerted on charge perpendicular to charge, or is it perpendicular to magnetic field lines, or both?
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And most importantly, why is this force always perpendicular?
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Why does MF feel the need to exert force on charge? Is it due to MF having more strength ( greater magnetic forces ) in particular area ( because of moving charge contributing its own MF, and as such MF feels the need to move charge to area of less strength in order to make MF more homogeneous )?
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It's pretty easy to figure out the direction of force exerted on charge if charge is moving perpendiculary to magnetic field lines, but else how do you figure out the direction of force on a charge?
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2. its the cross product of charge's velocity and the mf. If you point your fingers towards the direction of the velocity then point your palm in the direction of the mf (either up or down), then your thumb will be pointing to the direction of the force acted upon by the mf on the charge.
so, its always perpendicular to the mf, and perpendicular to charge's velocity if it is also perpendicular to the mf.

5. break the velocity vector into a parallel component and a perpendicular component. disregard the parallel component since it doesn' cause any force from the mf. Then use the perpendicular component in the equation.
 
These are very good inquiries. First of all, the magnetic field vector field was initially defined as the direction in which magnetic dipoles align. It is important to understand that the alignment of magnetic dipoles in B-fields due to magnets, such as iron, is caused by the same force that causes deflection of moving charges.

Take a square of wire that lies in the x-y plane with a constant current (movement of charge) flowing through it (in say the positive phi direction). Then let us apply a external uniform B-field, in say, the positive y-direction. Now, the ring of current is going to produce its own B-field independent of the externally applied B-field due to Biot-Savart's law and the magnetic dipole moment due to this B-field is in the positive z-direction, dictated by the current direction. In addition, the ring of current will begin to rotate in the presence of the external B-field, due to the Lorentz force. It is clear that the Lorentz force will want to align the current ring's magnetic dipole with the external B-field.

Now, the alignment of iron shavings with a B-field is caused by the same action. In all materials, the electrons around the atoms (bound or unbound) are moving which produce magnetic dipoles. In the absense of a B-field, the magnetic dipoles are pointing in random directions. However, in some materials (magnetic materials), in the presense of a B-field the magnetic dipoles align themselves with the B-field. This is caused by the same physical laws that cause a current ring's dipole to align with a magnetic field. Some materials do not align their at all dipoles with the magnetic field. These materials are non-magnetic. Other materials allow their magnetic dipoles to align with the B-field but when the B-field is turned off the dipoles point in random directions once again. Other materials after the dipoles are aligned by a B-field and then the field is turned off some of their dipoles stay in the direction induced by the B-field, but the rest resume their random orientations (these are called paramagnetic or diamagnetic substances). Finally, other materials after the dipoles are aligned by a B-field and then the field is turned off most of the dipoles retain their aligned orientations (these are called ferromagnetic substances).
 
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