Magnitude of average velocity and average speed

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves an electron moving in one dimension, first in the positive x-direction and then in the opposite direction after colliding with a proton. The task is to calculate the average velocity and average speed based on the distances traveled and the time intervals for each segment of the motion.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use the distance formula to calculate average velocity and average speed but seems to misunderstand the application of the formula and the concept of total distance versus displacement.
  • Some participants question the method used for calculating average speed, suggesting that the total distance should be divided by the total time rather than using the difference of the time intervals.
  • Others point out that the net displacement should be calculated by subtracting the distances traveled in opposite directions, rather than applying the Pythagorean theorem.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively discussing the correct approach to calculating average velocity and average speed. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct interpretation of displacement and the calculation of total distance and time. Multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored, particularly concerning the application of vector addition in one-dimensional motion.

Contextual Notes

There appears to be confusion regarding the definitions of average speed and average velocity, as well as the proper method for calculating net displacement in this scenario. The original poster's calculations are based on assumptions that are being questioned by other participants.

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Homework Statement


An electron moves in the positive x-direction a distance of 2.44 m in 3.10 *10-8 s, bounces off a moving proton, and then moves in the opposite direction a distance of 1.68 m in 3.53*10-8 s.



The Attempt at a Solution



to find the average velocity I used the distance formula to find magnitude divide it by the c

Sqrt (2.44)^2+(1.68)^2 / (3.53*10^8 - 3.10*10^8) ?


for the average speed

(2.44 - 1.68) / (3.53*10^8 - 3.10*10^8)?


Can someone explain it by showing some work? I keep getting the wrong answer.
 
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J.live said:
for the average speed

(2.44 - 1.68) / (3.53*10^8 - 3.10*10^8)?


Can someone explain it by showing some work? I keep getting the wrong answer.

This part is wrong for sure. The average speed would be the total distance traveled (without regard for direction) divided by the total time elapsed. The total time elapsed would be the SUM of the two time intervals, not the difference between them, right?
 
As for the first part of the question, your method for finding the net displacement is also wrong. That Pythagorean distance formula you used does not apply, because the two vectors aren't perpendicular. They are anti-parallel (meaning one is in the +x direction, and one is in the -x direction). So they lie along the same line, making this effectively a 1D problem. To add up the two vectors, all you end up having to do is subtract the two distances. Draw a picture and you'll see what I mean.

A more intuitive way to arrive at that answer is to think about what the net displacement actually means physically: it is how far from its starting point the particle ends up.

My comment about the time interval also applies here as well.
 
Thank you.
 

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