Magnitude of electric field between two concentric oppositely charged

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The discussion focuses on calculating the electric field between two concentric oppositely charged spheres. The initial approach used the equation E=V/d, which led to confusion regarding the variable 'r' in the standard formula E=Q/(4πεr²). It was clarified that 'r' represents the distance from the center of the spheres, and the formula is derived from Gauss's law rather than the simpler E=V/d, which applies to uniform fields. The participant acknowledged their misunderstanding and recognized the need to study electric and magnetic fields more thoroughly. Understanding the correct application of these concepts is essential for solving related problems effectively.
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Homework Statement



Magnitude of electric field between two concentric oppositely charged spheres.

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So I first went with the simple electric field equation E=V/d

So I have the potential difference V between the two sphere surfaces. I can't do Latex but hyperphysics has it anyway:

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So I know V.
And surely, in E=V/d, the distance d is simply b-a.

So finally I sub my V and d into the equation and I'm left with:

E = Q/(4πεab)

Which looks reasonable enough.. But all sources on the Internet tell me that the answer is simply:

E=Q/4πεr2

The real confusing thing for me here is... What is 'r' ? What is it the radius from? The radius from the centre? Or from the surface of the inner sphere? Or something else..??

I fear my problem may be with the fact that I used E=V/d, which is possibly only valid for charged plates, rather than spheres? Either way, I'm still a little confused about what the 'r' actually means in the correct answer.

Thanks for any guidance :thumbs:
 
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Should 'r' be defined such that:

a < r < b

?
 
The expression above the ##\Delta V## formula you show is that selfsame E=Q/(4πεr2) !
Read up on Gauss's theorem (ibidem, another two lines higher up, or Gauss's law)

Your E=V/d is a special case for a constant ##\vec E ## all over the place.
Otherwise (here for instance) ##\vec E = -\vec\nabla V##.

And r is simply the distance to the center.
 
Oh dear oh dear! So yeah I guess my main error was for the E=Vd part.

I've been taught about E = -∇V before, and yeah that makes perfect sense come to think of it.

Electric/Magnetic fields is certainly my weakest subject at the moment. Must study harder!

Thanks for showing me that :thumbs:
 
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