Magnitude of Force of two point charges on a third (electrostatics)

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The discussion revolves around calculating the magnitude of the total force exerted by two point charges on a third charge in an electrostatic context. The original poster presents a scenario involving three charges positioned along the x-axis and attempts to compute the forces acting on the third charge.

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  • The original poster attempts to calculate the forces using Coulomb's law but questions the correctness of their results. Participants discuss the signs of the forces and the correct approach to summing them.

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Participants are actively engaging in clarifying the signs of the forces and the method for calculating the net force. There is a recognition of potential errors in the original calculations, and some guidance has been offered regarding the correct approach to summing the forces.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the direction of forces and the proper application of significant figures in the calculations. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their approach and results.

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Two point charges are placed on the x-axis as follows: charge q1 = 4.01nC is located at x= 0.201m , and charge q2 = 5.00nC is at x= -0.301m.

What is the magnitude of the total force exerted by these two charges on a negative point charge q3 = -6.03nC that is placed at the origin?

I know I need to use:
F = (k * q_1 * q_2)/d^2, where k = 9E9


I've tried taking the sum of magnitudes of F(1 on 3) and F(2 on 3), but have been incorrect. I set it up like below:

F(1 on 3) = (k * 4.01E-9 * -6.03E-9) / 0.201^2 = -0.000005 N

F(2 on 3) = (k * 5.00E-9 * -6.03E-9) / 0.301^2 = -0.000003 N


This would give the answer as 0.000008 N, or more precisely 8.37E-6 N. Could anyone tell me where I'm going wrong?
 
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check the sign of F(2 on 3). Which direction is it?
 
Yeah, it should be positive, my bad. However I've also tried 0.000002 as an answer and that was incorrect:/
 
Lose the fixed point notation and stick to scientific notation so that significant figures are clear. What's the value of the net force to three significant figures?
 
F(1 on 3) = -5.387E-6
F(2 on 3) = -2.995E-6

This is a magnitude of 8.37E-6 N, which was incorrect
 
ctallarico20 said:
F(1 on 3) = -5.387E-6
F(2 on 3) = -2.995E-6

This is a magnitude of 8.37E-6 N, which was incorrect

The first force is wrong (direction).
The second force is okay.
 
The magnitude appears to be correct though, right? For some reason it's not
 
ctallarico20 said:
The magnitude appears to be correct though, right? For some reason it's not

Probably because I mixed you up. I suggested F(2 on 3 ) should be +, but it's -. Similarly, F(1 on 3) should be +, not -. But the magnitude of the difference is the same.

Do it gneill's way which is right.
 
rude man said:
Probably because I mixed you up. I suggested F(2 on 3 ) should be +, but it's -. Similarly, F(1 on 3) should be +, not -. But the magnitude of the difference is the same.

Do it gneill's way which is right.

In that case, F(1 on 3) is = 5.387E-6
F(2 on 3) is = -2.995E-6

Magnitude still appears to be 8.37E-6 N like you said. Am I using the wrong equation or something? This doesn't make sense to me
 
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Add the forces, then take the magnitude.
 
  • #11
Ohhh I gotcha, so 5.387E-6 + (-2.995E-6), which = 2.392E-6. So the magnitude is 2.392E-6N?
 
  • #12
Yup. Round to 3 significant figures for your final result.
 
  • #13
Perfect. Thank you all so, so much
 

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