Magnitude of the baseball's momentum?

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The problem involves comparing the momentum of a cardinal and a baseball, both having the same kinetic energy. The masses of the cardinal and baseball are given, and the task is to find the ratio of their momenta.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between kinetic energy and momentum, exploring how to derive the ratio of momenta from the given masses and kinetic energy equality. Some express confusion about the steps needed to find the velocity ratios and how they relate to momentum.

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There are various approaches being discussed, with some participants attempting to derive the velocity ratios from the kinetic energy equation. Others are questioning the clarity of the steps involved in finding the momentum ratio, indicating a productive exploration of the problem.

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Participants are working under the assumption that both objects have the same kinetic energy, which is central to their reasoning. There is some uncertainty regarding the application of the momentum equation and the manipulation of the kinetic energy formula.

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A cardinal (Richmondena cardinalis) of mass 3.80×10−2 kg and a baseball of mass 0.144 kg have the same kinetic energy. What is the ratio of the cardinal's magnitude of momentum to the magnitude of the baseball's momentum?

p_c / p_b = ?


attempt :

P_c / p_b = M_c*V_c / M_b*V_b

M_c / M_b = 19/72 ; their ratio

so their V has to be a ratio of = V_c/V_b = 72/19.

not sure what after this.
 
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[tex]\frac{0.5m_cv_c^2}{0.5m_bv_b^2}=1[/tex]
{since they have the same kinetic energy)
(b=basketball)

you can get mc/mb, so can get the ratio of the velocites.

using the momentum equation you can get the ratios of the momentums

[tex]\frac{p_c}{p_b}=\frac{m_cv_c}{m_bv_b}[/tex]
 


Confused a little.

[tex] \frac{0.5m_cv_c^2}{0.5m_bv_b^2}=1[/tex]

the .5 cancels out. I know M_c / M_b

and I use
[tex]\frac{p_c}{p_b}=\frac{m_cv_c}{m_bv_b}[/tex]

SO Do i find the ratio of velocities and plug it into momentum ratio?
 


[attempt]

If I find the ratio of the velocity with [tex]\frac{0.5m_cv_c^2}{0.5m_bv_b^2}=1[/tex]
then put the velocity ratio into :
[tex] \frac{p_c}{p_b}=\frac{m_cv_c}{m_bv_b}[/tex]

the ratio of momentum = 1.

so i am not getting what your saying
 


Ec = 1/2*mc*vc^2
2*Ec*mc = (mc^2)*vc^2 = Pc^2...(1)
Similarly 2*Eb*mb = (mb^2)*vb^2 = Pb^2...(2)
Now take the ratio of equation 1 and 2 and find the ratio of the momentums.
 


[tex]K.E = \frac{p^2}{2m}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{p_1^2}{p_2^2} = \frac{m_1}{m_2}<br /> [/tex]

[tex]\frac{p_1}{p_2} = \sqrt{\frac{m_1}{m_2}}<br /> [/tex]
 

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