Magnus force and boundary layer equations

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The discussion focuses on the derivation of the Magnus force affecting rotating cylinders and spheres moving through air, specifically seeking a proof or equation leading to the formula fm=S(v)ω^v. The user has found a PDF with a classical Magnus force derivation but struggles to understand it and requests a simplified explanation. Additionally, there is interest in solving boundary layer equations numerically, with an invitation for assistance on this topic. Questions arise regarding the significance of radius and the differences between the effects on spheres versus cylinders. The conversation highlights a need for clarity in understanding advanced physics concepts related to the Magnus effect.
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First of all I am trying to find a "derivation??" for the Magnus force that affects rotating cylinders and spheres passing moving through air.

By derivation, if it is not correct, I mean a proof, something showing how the function was created.

I have found the magnus force quite easily by searching through the web and it seems to be:

fm=S(v)ω^v

As I said I need some kind of equations leading to this formula.


Also I am wondering if anyone here is familiar with solving boundary layer equations (numerically) as I have a need for doing that but am unable to.

I understand my language is not perfect and I urge you to ask if there is something that is not fully understandable.
 
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Ok I hope someone has atleast wanted to help with this problem :)
I found this pdf which contain a derivation of the classical magnus force but I am having a hard time understanding it, if someone familiar with advanced physics could give me layman's term rundown I'd be immensly grateful :D
 
FredGarvin said:
Perhaps this link which states a derivation and some sources may be of help:

http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/jun99/928944018.Ph.r.html
I will go through it this evening but I am just wondering if the two derivations are the same?


How come radius isn't important?

And what's the difference if it's a sphere or a cylinder?
 
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The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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