Maintaining self-worth when grapping with tough problems

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The discussion revolves around the emotional challenges and self-worth issues that arise when grappling with difficult problems in physics and other STEM fields. Participants share personal experiences and coping strategies related to feelings of inadequacy and frustration when faced with roadblocks in problem-solving.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express that encountering roadblocks can lead to feelings of diminished self-worth, with one noting a negative internal dialogue that can affect productivity.
  • Others suggest taking breaks or engaging in relaxing activities to return to the problem with a fresh perspective, with one participant mentioning late-night revelations.
  • There is a viewpoint that emphasizes the importance of asking for help when stuck, suggesting that it is not solely an individual's fault if they cannot solve a problem independently.
  • One participant humorously suggests that sometimes it is okay to express frustration through crying, but ultimately encourages taking a break and returning to the problem later.
  • Several participants note that knowing others have solved the same problem can exacerbate feelings of inadequacy, with some emphasizing that this is a common experience among students.
  • Another perspective highlights the unique opportunity of studying complex subjects at a university level, arguing that this should not be tied to one's intrinsic self-worth.
  • One participant encourages viewing roadblocks as positive obstacles that contribute to personal growth and skill development in problem-solving.
  • A quote from Kennedy is referenced to reinforce the idea that tackling hard problems is a worthwhile endeavor.
  • Another participant reiterates the value of struggling with difficult problems, stating that the learning gained from such experiences is often greater than from easier problems.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally share similar feelings about the emotional toll of difficult problems, but there are varying opinions on how to cope with these feelings. While some advocate for taking breaks and seeking help, others emphasize the importance of perseverance and reframing challenges as opportunities for growth. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to maintain self-worth in the face of difficulties.

Contextual Notes

Participants express a range of emotional responses and coping strategies, indicating that individual experiences may vary widely. There is no consensus on a singular method for dealing with feelings of inadequacy when faced with challenging problems.

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I don't know about the rest of you, but I grapple with self-worth when I am confronted with a roadblock in solving problems. It's that little voice that says: "it's no one's fault but your own"... and I kinda get down.

Do any of you suffer from that, and how do you deal with it? Melancholy kills productivity you know...
 
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Happens to me all the time. Usually when I get to that stage I put the problem down and do something else (usually relaxing) for a while. Then inevitably my mind wanders back to the problem some time later, but usually with a somewhat fresher outlook on it. Leads to many a gratifying revelation in bed at 3am!
 
bjnartowt said:
"it's no one's fault but your own"
How could it be your fault? You are doing what you can, sitting there trying to study it. If it was an exam and you hadn't broken through the problem before, then it is your fault getting into that mess.

What if you can't solve the problem without help? Then there is nothing you can do but just that: Ask for help.
 
Sometimes, when its a really really hard problem, and you're really stuck, and you're getting really down, you don't have a choice.

You've got to go have a good cry.

Oh yeah. That's right. Get right up from the table (ignore your study partners at this point), go over to the corner (if they're not all taken by other stumped physics students), and just start crying. Get it all out. It's ok to moan while you sob, if it helps. We've all been there. People will understand.

Haha, just kidding of course. Seriously, just skip it and come back to it! It takes work to learn, you just got to keep working at it. A physics problem doesn't tell you who you are. You do that.
 
it's especially worse when you know that others have solved it before
 
emyt said:
it's especially worse when you know that others have solved it before

I'm pretty sure this is the case for any problem any student would be working on...
 
emyt said:
it's especially worse when you know that [STRIKE]others[/STRIKE] everyone who have taken the course have solved it before
I think that it is more about this.
 
I might just flip this question around. Consider that in studying physics or math or engineering at the university level you are learning things at a level that vast majority of people will never have a chance to learn. Does it somehow make you better than them that you have that opportunity?

You may become more valuable from an industrial or academic point of view because you will have developed some special skills. But this shouldn't be tied to your intrinsic self-worth.

While wrestling with tough problems, it's wise to keep in mind that you're a student. You don't have to be perfect at the first try with everything.

As dotmain said:
A physics problem doesn't tell you who you are. You do that.
 
View the roadblock as a positive obstacle. You know once you bust your *** and get past this roadblock, you will be considerably better at solving physics problems. I think in order to reach the level you want to be at, you have to struggle.
 
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I just remember the quote from Kennedy that says "we do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard."
 
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JG89 said:
View the roadblock as a positive obstacle. You know once you bust your *** and get past this roadblock, you will be considerably better at solving physics problems. I think in order to reach the level you want to be at, you have to struggle.

The last sentence here is undeniably true. I learn more working on a single difficult problem (working/thinking about on and off) for hours without solving it than I do solving many much easier problems in the same time.
 

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