Majorana Lagrangian and Majorana/Dirac matrices

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The discussion revolves around the formulation of the Majorana Lagrangian and the use of Majorana versus Dirac matrices in quantum field theory. Participants explore the implications of using different sets of gamma matrices in the context of fermions that are their own antiparticles, as described in a specific textbook.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes that the Majorana Lagrangian is developed using Dirac gamma matrices, questioning why Majorana matrices are not used instead.
  • Another participant points out that using Majorana matrices leads to equations that appear odd and incorrect.
  • A participant inquires about the existence of a unitary transformation between Majorana and Dirac matrices, suggesting that the physics differs significantly between the two sets.
  • There is a request for clarification on what is meant by "usual Dirac gamma matrices" and which representation is being referred to.
  • A reference to a specific exercise is made, indicating a potential source for further exploration of the topic.

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Participants express differing views on the use of Majorana versus Dirac matrices, with no consensus reached on the appropriateness of one over the other or the implications of their differences.

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Participants highlight the potential for confusion regarding the representations of gamma matrices and the specific conditions under which the Majorana Lagrangian is formulated. There are unresolved questions about the transformation properties and the physical interpretations of the two types of matrices.

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In Lancaster & Burnell book, "QFT for the gifted amateur", chapter 48, it is explained that, with a special set of ##\gamma## matrices, the Majorana ones, the Dirac equation may describe a fermion which is its own antiparticle.

Then, a Majorana Lagrangian is considered:
##\mathcal{L}=\bar{\nu}i\gamma^\mu\partial_{\mu}\nu- ##mass terms
where ##\nu## is for the Majorana fields. This Lagrangian is developed, using the usual Dirac ##\gamma## matrices and not the Majorana ones, and good looking Dirac equations are obtained.

My question is: why using the Dirac matrices to develop the Lagrangian instead of the Majorana ones? If I try the calculation with the Majorana ##\gamma## I obtain odd looking equations that don't look right.

Thank you for any help.
 
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Look at exercise (36.4).
 
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George Jones said:
Look at exercise (36.4).
Thank you. But is there a unitary transformation between the Majorana ##\bar\gamma## matrices and the Dirac ##\gamma## matrices? I don't think so, for example ##U\bar\gamma^0=\gamma^0U => U=0##. Actually the physics is different with the two sets of matrices, with antiparticle in one case and no antiparticle in the other.
 
mbond said:
using the usual Dirac ##\gamma## matrices and not the Majorana ones

What do you mean by "usual Dirac ##\gamma## matrices"?

mbond said:
Thank you. But is there a unitary transformation between the Majorana ##\bar\gamma## matrices and the Dirac ##\gamma## matrices?

Which "representation" of the (Dirac) gamma matrices? Dirac? Weyl/chiral (as on page 324)?

See problem 2 of
http://users.physik.fu-berlin.de/~jizba/FU-petr/FU-ubungen.pdf

I think that the first ##U## in the problem should have a ##-\sigma^2## at the bottom left.
 
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