Make a matrix defective if possible

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The discussion revolves around determining conditions under which a given matrix can be classified as defective, specifically focusing on the eigenvalues and their corresponding eigenvectors.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mixed

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the eigenvalues of the matrix and its potential to be defective, questioning whether specific values of alpha (0 or 2) are necessary for this condition. They also discuss the implications of having an incomplete basis of eigenvectors.

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The discussion is active, with participants offering insights into the conditions for a matrix to be defective. There is an acknowledgment of the need to check the eigenspace for completeness at certain values of alpha, but no consensus has been reached on whether other values could also lead to a defective matrix.

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Participants reference the properties of normal matrices and the implications of algebraic multiplicity in relation to the matrix's structure. There is an ongoing examination of the definitions and conditions that contribute to a matrix being classified as defective.

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[tex]\begin{bmatrix}<br /> 1 & 1 & 0\\ <br /> 1 & 1 & 0\\ <br /> 0 & 0 & \alpha<br /> \end{bmatrix}[/tex] and [itex]det(A-\lambda I)=\lambda(\alpha-\lambda)(\lambda-2)=0[/itex]

Therefore, [itex]\lambda_1=0[/itex], [itex]\lambda_2=\alpha[/itex], and [itex]\lambda_3=2[/itex].

In order to make this matrix defective, I need to make the left two column vectors dependent[tex]\begin{bmatrix}<br /> 1-\alpha & 1 & 0\\ <br /> 1 & 1-\alpha & 0\\ <br /> 0 & 0 & 0<br /> \end{bmatrix}[/tex].

Is there an easy way to find or determine if this can be done for a given matrix?
 
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I am thinking the only way this will work if alpha=0 or 2? Then I need to check those values to see if the eigenspace has only one eigenvector. However, is that necessarily true that it will only work at those values or is it possible that another value besides 0 or 2 will work?
 
well to be defective it must have an eigenvalue with >1 algebraic multiplicity, but looking at
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defective_matrix
says normal matricies are not defective, and your matrix is real & symmetric as far as I can tell...
 
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If a matrix has an eigenvalue, then it has at least one eigenvector corresponding to that eigenvalue. So, yes, the only way it can be defective is if alpha=0 or alpha=2.
 
Dick said:
If a matrix has an eigenvalue, then it has at least one eigenvector corresponding to that eigenvalue. So, yes, the only way it can be defective is if alpha=0 or alpha=2.


Thanks
 
Careful, what Dick said was that the matrix can be defective if [itex]\alpha=0[/itex] or [itex]\alpha=2[/itex]...In order to determine if it actually is defective for either of those two values, you need to check whether or not they yield an incomplete basis of eigenvectors.
 
gabbagabbahey said:
Careful, what Dick said was that the matrix can be defective if [itex]\alpha=0[/itex] or [itex]\alpha=2[/itex]...In order to determine if it actually is defective for either of those two values, you need to check whether or not they yield an incomplete basis of eigenvectors.

Right. I should have emphasized the 'CAN'. In fact, for those two values, if you think about lanedance's general observation, you don't actually have to compute the eigenvectors.
 

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