Making current with van de graff gen.

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A Van de Graaff generator (VDG) can produce a current in a circuit, but only at very low levels, typically around 20 to 50 microamps. The generator operates by charging a rubber belt, which is limited in charge capacity and speed, leading to minimal current output. To achieve higher currents, professionals utilize a pelletron, which replaces the rubber belt with a conductive chain and operates in a vacuum chamber to prevent sparking. This setup allows for significantly higher charge accumulation and current generation.

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Couldn't I create a current in a circuit using a van de graff as the source of voltage? Many thanks.
 
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Originally posted by Vosh
Couldn't I create a current in a circuit using a van de graff as the source of voltage? Many thanks.
Yes, but at very low current.
 


Originally posted by russ_watters
Yes, but at very low current.


Why is that? Isn't a wire a veritable sea of free electrons?
 


The van de graph generator itself by nature produces a large quantity of voltage, however the current produced is extreamly small. Ultimately, you would need to feed the acquired power from the v.d.g. through a step down transformer in order to lower the voltage and raise the current. What method of aquiring are you using (thinking about using)?

There's too much natural resistance in wire to permit free electron motion without constant influential drive.
 


Originally posted by Vosh
Why is that? Isn't a wire a veritable sea of free electrons?

The wire isn't the problem.

Inside the VDG there are charges sprayed onto the rubber belt, and the maximum charge per area is limited. (Put too much charge on the belt surface, and a spark will let it flow back off again.)

The speed of the belt is also limited. If you run the motor too fast, the belt starts flapping back and forth.

For little desktop VDG machines, the most you can get out of them is 20 or 50 microamps. But don't forget, at a voltage of 100,000V that gives you a few watts.

The professionals attain higher currents by running the belt in a vacuum chamber where no sparks are allowed, so the max charge on the belt can be much higher. But to force charge onto the belt, the belt must have conductive patches. The solution is to use a sort of metal chain thingy in place of a rubber belt. Such a device isn't called a VandeGraaff machine. Instead it's called a "pelletron"
 

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