Making Rust Quickly: 4 Methods I've Tried

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To produce rust (iron oxide, Fe2O3) quickly, one effective method involves immersing steel wool in a mixture of vinegar and bleach, although this releases toxic chlorine gas and requires careful handling. The discussion also explores the burning of steel wool, which may lead to the formation of magnetic iron oxide (Fe3O4) instead of rust, as the resulting material appears darker and more brittle. Participants suggest that the oxidation process during burning may not yield visible rust, and the presence of residual oils on steel wool could affect the outcome. Additionally, methods for separating rust from contaminants like salt or unreacted materials are discussed, emphasizing the need for efficient collection techniques. Overall, the conversation highlights various techniques and chemical reactions involved in rust production while addressing safety concerns and practical challenges.
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If you want a source of small iron chips for making rust, go to a machine shop and ask if you can get a tin full of chips from machining cast iron. Steel chips will be covered in cutting oil but cast iron is usually cut dry.

Be warned: cast iron is dirty because it's full of carbon. Aside from that, iron powder that gets into your clothes will rust and make your wife rather unhappy, especially if it goes into the laundry!
 
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edit= after a few experiments i found out it can be used to replace Fe2O3 for a lot of things.
 
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Isn't the reaction between potassium permanganate and glycerine supposed to be pretty intense. I've never tried it, but I heard it makes a good addition to a survival kit. I heard you make a small pile of permanganate(a teaspoon maybe) and add a few drops of glycerine to a well you make in the center.
Plus I heard permanganate is good for infections and such.
 
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A regular kids fourth of July sparkler can ignite a thermite reaction.

So I've heard.
 
  • #55
First off, some of you aren't reading the thread before posting... the first page explains in excellent detail why both bleach (the oxidizer) and vinegar are necessary to make the 'rust' quickly, there is also a warning about the dangers of this combination...

While a sparkler does have small bits of magnesium in it (that's what makes the bright white 'sparks' that shoot off) and magnesium burns hot enough to begin a thermite reaction, a sparkler will not typically ignite a pile of thermite becuase the little Mg bits don't burn long enough to get the reaction up to full temperature. However, if you buy a coil or ribbon of Mg, you can use that like a wick to begin your thermite reaction. The Potassium Permanganate and Glycerine trick will work as well, but is a tad less reliable (and a bit less safe). I ugre you again to be EXCEEDINGLY CAUTIOUS before you ignite thermite. depending on your mixture and amount anything within 20 feet or so will be scorched. Also, plan for the molten iron to flow somewhere, I recommend a metal bucket filled with DRY sand.
 
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And whatever you do, don't use a torch to ignite the thermite (oxyacetylene can reach a temperature of about 3050C)I've read that if a large portion of the material reaches ignition temperature at once it can react explosively. I would not want to be any where near that.
 
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jmnew51 said:
And whatever you do, don't use a torch to ignite the thermite (oxyacetylene can reach a temperature of about 3050C)I've read that if a large portion of the material reaches ignition temperature at once it can react explosively. I would not want to be any where near that.



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