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News Malaysia Airlines flight crashes in Ukraine

  1. Jul 17, 2014 #1
    Very little information right now but we know it was a Boeing 777 flying from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/07/17/world/europe/ukraine-malaysia-airlines-crash/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

    AP: Passenger plane shot down over Ukraine
    http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/ap-passenger-plane-shot-ukraine/

     
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  3. Jul 17, 2014 #2
    Looks like Russian terrorists armed by Putin. (but of course would have to be confirmed)
     
  4. Jul 17, 2014 #3

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    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28354856

    (Someone made a typo or messed up a conversion factor... 10,000 m is more like 6.2 miles.)
     
  5. Jul 17, 2014 #4

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  7. Jul 17, 2014 #6

    jtbell

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    According to the BBC's live text feed at http://www.bbc.com/news/world-28354787 :

     
  8. Jul 17, 2014 #7
    I give further piece of info.

    Russian mercenaries claim shooting down an Ukrainian transport plane. But Ukrainians seems not to have lost any today. Connect the dots, the time fits perfectly...

    http://itar-tass.com/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/1325017

    EDIT: Shall count it as confirmed?
     
  9. Jul 17, 2014 #8

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  10. Jul 17, 2014 #9

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    http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014...t-down-by-missile-near-ukraine-russia-border/


    The Pro-Russian 'rebels' had the missiles, bragged about using the missiles and now it's possible US citizens or at least US passport holders are dead along with the rest of the pax and crew because of it. Putin needs to send his forces in to shut these fools down and hang the people who are responsible. Mistakes happen but this was criminal IMO with the planes IFF screaming 'I'm an airliner, I'm an airliner' ever second to the targeting radar.
     
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    jtbell

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    From the BBC live text feed referenced above:

    I think Kiev might have something to say about that idea, seeing as the recorders were found on Ukrainian territory. Also Kuala Lumpur, seeing as it's their aircraft...
     
  13. Jul 17, 2014 #12

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    If the recorders actually are in rebel hands (and now a picture of rebels at the crash site has been posted on the BBC live text feed), what can Kiev do?
     
  14. Jul 17, 2014 #13
    "U.S. intelligence confirms surface-to-air missile fired at Malaysian jet but is divided over origin."
    http://online.wsj.com/
     
  15. Jul 17, 2014 #14
    The interesting thing is that the US intelligence is actually unsure whether the SAM was launched from Ukrainian territory or Russian.
     
  16. Jul 17, 2014 #15

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    I'm surprised that airliners were even routed over that area with the numbers of military aircraft that have been shot down. CNN was reporting that the pilots have been nervous about flying through that airspace for the last few weeks. Duh.
     
  17. Jul 17, 2014 #16

    Monique

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    280 passenger and 15 crew, at least 154 Dutch people on board :( several of my friends often take that flight, thankfully they and their family/friends are all safe. My heart goes out to all the people who have lost loved ones.
     
  18. Jul 17, 2014 #17

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    Divided over it's origin? That's a hoot! IMO we and Russia know exactly which missile battery pulled the trigger as this is old school basic signals intelligence from the cold war that we both have spent billions on. It's time to cut the crap with diplomatic weasel words and start dropping cards on the group that killed these people.
     
  19. Jul 17, 2014 #18

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    News sources are reporting that the Ukrainians have stated that they have phone intercepts from an insurgent commander talking to a Russian GRU and stating that they were the ones who fired the missle. I heard that on CNN but haven't been able to find an article on the web yet.
     
  20. Jul 17, 2014 #19

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    According to the BBC,
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-28356745
     
  21. Jul 17, 2014 #20
    This is apparently the audio, but it appears to be completely in Russian. Can anyone translate?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V5E8kDo2n6g
     
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