Manifold: what's the meaning of this name?

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The discussion centers around the etymology and meaning of the term "manifold" as it relates to mathematics, particularly in the context of topology. Participants explore its historical usage and implications in mathematical theory.

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  • Goldbeetle inquires about the origin of the term "manifold" and its application in mathematics.
  • Some participants suggest that the term relates to the idea of a "thing with several possible shapes," indicating the flexibility of manifolds in mathematical structures.
  • One participant references Riemann's original German terminology, "Mannigfaltigkeit," and its translation as "multiply extended quantities," suggesting a deeper meaning behind the term.
  • Another participant notes that the English term is a direct translation of the German word, which encompasses concepts of diversity and variety.
  • A participant humorously mentions a misunderstanding of the term as "mainfold," indicating the potential for confusion in terminology.
  • One participant assumes that "manifold" is associated with the concept of "many dimensions," reflecting a common interpretation in mathematical contexts.

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Participants express various interpretations of the term "manifold," with no consensus on a singular definition or understanding. Multiple competing views on its etymology and implications remain present in the discussion.

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There are references to historical definitions and translations that may not fully capture the nuances of the term as used in modern mathematics. The discussion highlights the complexity of translating mathematical terminology across languages.

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Dear all,
I've always wondered where the name "manifold" comes from?
Any idea?
Thanks,
Goldbeetle
 
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FredericGos said:
Let me google it for you... ;)

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/manifold


Thanks, maybe my question was not clear. The question is why was that word, "manifold", with those meanings (see your link) used to label this topological space
 
I think it come from the fact that one of the meanings is a 'thing with several possible shapes'. A bare manifold is essentially that, a thing you can add structure too or deform into several possible shapes. At least that's my understanding of this.
 
Riemann, who was the first to talk of manifolds, called them (in german!) something like "multiply extended quantities"... probably having in mind that they would be objects who could locally be parametrized by many coordinates... a natural generalization of surfaces.
If "manifold" is not as good a translation of the word Riemann used for them as "multiply extended quantities" is, at least it has the merit of being brief!
 
So the English usage in mathematics is as a translation of the German "Mannigfaltigkeit"
 
The first time I saw it I mistook it for "mainfold",haha
 
mannigfaltigkeit

Hi Goldbeetle! Hi g_edgar! :smile:
g_edgar said:
So the English usage in mathematics is as a translation of the German "Mannigfaltigkeit"

"mannigfaltig" seems to be the German for "diverse" "various" or "multifarious",

and "mannigfaltigkeit" for "diversity" "variety" or "manifoldness".

At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Markus_Schmaus/Riemann" , Markus Schmaus says …
In (I) Riemann defines a "Mannigfaltigkeit" as consisting of the "Bestimmungsweisen" (ways of determination) of a "Größenbegriff" (concept of quantity), with "Bestimmungsweisen" being the points of a "stetige Mannigfaltigkeit" (continuous manifold). The "stetige Mannigfaltigkeit" is not described as being composed from smaller pieces, nor does he mention local flattness. In another, not translated, part he mentions colors and the locations of "Sinngegenstände" (objects of perception) as the only simple concepts giving rise to "stetige Mannigfaltigkeiten". At another point he calls the possible shapes of a spatial figure a "Mannigfaltigkeit".
… and illustrates this with German quotations (and his own English translations) from Riemann's http://www.maths.tcd.ie/pub/HistMath/People/Riemann/Geom/"
 
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I have always assumed that "manifold" was associated with "many dimensions".
 

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