Manipulating inverse square graph into straight line graph

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The discussion revolves around manipulating data from an experiment involving the force of repulsion between two positively charged metal spheres, which follows an inverse square relationship. The original poster has collected data points and graphed them, observing a concave descending graph characteristic of inverse square relationships. The central question is how to transform this data into a straight line graph.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between force and distance, suggesting that the force can be expressed in terms of distance squared. The original poster attempts various manipulations of the data, such as doubling the charge and halving the distance, but struggles to achieve a linear representation. Some participants suggest plotting force against 1/r² as a potential solution.

Discussion Status

There is a productive exchange of ideas, with participants providing guidance on how to manipulate the equation to fit a linear model. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the differences between the forms of the equations discussed, indicating ongoing exploration of the concepts involved.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions having been out of school for several years and is currently taking a course to upgrade their knowledge, which may influence their understanding of the mathematical concepts involved.

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Homework Statement



In the course of performing several trials I determined that if you have 2 charged metal spheres (with the same amount of charge on them) and they are both positively charged, then the force of repulsion between them is changed by 1/4 each time you double the distance between them.

This experiment no doubt sounds very familiar as it has been done many times before.

I collected my data (16N@1.0cm, 4N@2.0cm, 1N@4.0cm, and 0.25N@8.0cm) and graphed it and of course I end up with a classic looking descending, concave looking graph which is the inverse square graph, I think.

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Now I have been puzzling over this for quite a while and even asked my boss and some co-workers to help and even together we can not figure it out - the question is:

"manipulate the data so that the graph is a straight line graph"

The Attempt at a Solution



I have tried doubling the charge, halving the distance, square rooting the distance, etc.

It always seems to end up with the same shape.

I think I might be missing the fundamental lesson here. Hopefully someone here can offer some insight.
 
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You have a relationship that is force = some_factor/distance^2
And a straight line is y=mx + c

So you need to put it into this form.
y (ie. force) = m x (ie. 1/r^2 )
 
mgb_phys said:
You have a relationship that is force = some_factor/distance^2
And a straight line is y=mx + c

So you need to put it into this form.
y (ie. force) = m x (ie. 1/r^2 )

Thank you very much - I knew it was something fundamental.

I have been out of school for several years and am taking a course to upgrade and the formula for the graph of a line is something I have completely forgotten!

So I need to manipulate my F=kq/r^2 into a form that matches y=mx + c?

I will make an attempt to do so.
 
sync303 said:
So I need to manipulate my F=kq/r^2 into a form that matches y=mx + c?
Yes just plot force against 1/r^2
 
mgb_phys said:
Yes just plot force against 1/r^2

Ok, I am still struggling with this.

If i used y=mx or in this case F=m(1/r^2) I am going to get the same answers am I not?

I can't see the difference between F=m/r^2 and F=m(1/r^2) where m is equal to kq.
 

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