Mars Magnetosphere: New Research on Solar Wind Induced Shielding

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The discussion revolves around the concept of Mars' magnetosphere and the potential for solar wind to induce magnetic shielding in its atmosphere. Participants explore the implications of recent research suggesting that solar wind may create induced magnetic fields in Mars' ionosphere, questioning the validity of these claims and the conditions necessary for such phenomena to occur.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express skepticism about the claim that solar wind induces currents in Mars' ionosphere, noting that Mars is known to lack a significant magnetosphere.
  • There are requests for sources to verify the claims made by Swedish PhD scholars regarding solar wind and induced magnetism on Mars.
  • One participant clarifies that the research does not imply Mars has a natural magnetic field like Earth, but rather discusses solar wind-induced fields.
  • Concerns are raised about the feasibility of solar wind-induced fields being strong enough to protect Mars' atmosphere comparably to a rotating core's magnetic field.
  • A participant proposes the theoretical idea of using a metallic magnet on one of Mars' moons to create a dynamo effect, suggesting it could generate a magnetic field to protect the atmosphere.
  • Another participant counters that a magnet on a moon would not effectively contribute to Mars' magnetic field and questions the utility of such an approach.
  • Discussion includes the assertion that rotating a magnet does not enhance its magnetic field strength and that permanent magnets are insufficient for creating a planet-wide magnetic field.
  • It is noted that Mars currently has localized magnetic fields rather than a global magnetic field due to its solid core.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the validity of the research regarding solar wind-induced magnetism on Mars, with no consensus reached on the implications or feasibility of the proposed ideas.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the need for clarity on the calculations and assumptions behind the claims made in the research, indicating that the discussion is limited by the lack of detailed information.

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According to recent research news, swedish PhD scholars have said that solar wind induces currents in the ionosphere of mars. This causes an induced magnetoshere which in turn protects the atmosphere from the same wind. This is quite difficult to believe. It is well known that Mars does not really have a magnetosphere.
What extra conditions must be satisfied so that a rotating core can induce magnetic shielding around a planet?
 
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It would help if you give a link to the said research.
 
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vin300 said:
According to recent research news, swedish PhD scholars have said that solar wind induces currents in the ionosphere of mars.

rootone said:
It would help if you give a link to the said research.

agreed

and I doubt this thread should have been an A tag
 
davenn said:
... and I doubt this thread should have been an A tag
I set it on "I". However, without a proper source and the knowledge of the calculations done by this unnamed Swedish physicist, it is really hard to tell. How do I know what I want to say before I hear what I've said?
 
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Are you sure this was not Venus?
 
vin300 said:
According to recent research news, swedish PhD scholars have said that solar wind induces currents in the ionosphere of mars. This causes an induced magnetoshere which in turn protects the atmosphere from the same wind. This is quite difficult to believe. It is well known that Mars does not really have a magnetosphere.
What extra conditions must be satisfied so that a rotating core can induce magnetic shielding around a planet?
OK, you seem not to have read/understood the text correctly
It didn't say that Mars has a natural magnetic field as Earth does and this is what you are implying. It has Solar Wind INDUCED fields.

so there is nothing "difficult to believe" as you stated, there is no contradiction

Dave
 
I meant that the ability of solar wind induced fields to have the effect of the same magnitude as that of entire rotating core is what is indigestible
 
vin300 said:
I meant that the ability of solar wind induced fields to have the effect of the same magnitude as that of entire rotating core is what is indigestible

and where does it state that ?

it doesn't !
 
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I know nothing about this solar wind maybe inducing magnetic field on Mars.
But to (trying) respond to the last part of your question: Is it possible (theory and faisable?) to set a metallic magnet on one of the moon of Mars and by the simultaneous rotations to create a dynamo effect, then a magnetic field (to protect the atmosphere)?
 
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Welcome to PF :smile:

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Is it possible (theory and faisable?) to set a metallic magnet on one of the moon of Mars and by the simultaneous rotations to create a dynamo effect, then a magnetic field (to protect the atmosphere)?
I'm not sure how you expected that to work ?
a magnet on one of the moons isn't going to do anything useful for Mars
 
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And also one on Mars.
The rotation acting as a dynamo to "activate" in a larger scale what is left of Mars magnetic field...
 
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Rotating a magnet doesn't create a stronger field than the same magnet without rotation. It can create a field that varies with time (if the magnet doesn't rotate around its symmetry axis) but I don't see how this would be useful here.
In general permanent magnets won't lead to any relevant planet-wide magnetic field, they are just too weak and don't scale well.
 
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The Planet rotation.
 
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Beaugeard F said:
The Planet rotation.
NO

Mars no longer has a global magnetic field ... large or weak. It only has "pockets" of magnetism here and there. This is because the core of Mars is solid. It can no longer create a magnetic field.

Magnetic fields on Mars are localised and crustal
from Wiki ...

PIA02819_mag.jpg
Dave
 

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