Mass attached to a rope (simple)

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The problem involves a 1000 kg mass being lowered by a rope, initially moving at 10 m/s and decelerating at 1 m/s². Participants are discussing the calculation of the initial tension in the rope, considering the effects of acceleration and weight.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between tension, weight, and acceleration, questioning the original poster's reasoning and calculations. There is a focus on understanding how deceleration affects the tension in the rope.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the direction of acceleration and its implications for tension. There is an ongoing exploration of the concepts involved, with no explicit consensus reached yet.

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Participants are considering the implications of the mass's movement and acceleration, with references to scenarios involving elevators to clarify their understanding of the forces at play.

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1. A 1000kg mass is lowered by a rope. If the mass is initially moving at 10m/s, and is decelerating at 1m/s2, what is the initial tension T in the rope?



2. T = mg



3. So I tried setting up T = mg, and then since it is decelerating the tension must be less than what it would be if it was in static equilibrium. Then I added ma to side T.

ma + T = mg

Ended up getting T = 9000N, but the answer is 11,000N.


What did I do wrong? I thought my thinking was correct. I thought about a mass in an elevator which would weigh less if elevator moved downward and weigh more if elevator moved up.
 
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saltyload said:
I thought about a mass in an elevator which would weigh less if elevator moved downward and weigh more if elevator moved up.
If the elevator accelerates downward, the mass would 'weigh' less. Acceleration, not movement, is the key.

So what's the direction of the acceleration of the 1000 kg mass? (Read carefully.)
 
Doc Al said:
If the elevator accelerates downward, the mass would 'weigh' less. Acceleration, not movement, is the key.

So what's the direction of the acceleration of the 1000 kg mass? (Read carefully.)

AH! the mass is moving downward, but since its decelerating, its accelerating upwards, which increases the tension of the rope!
 
Exactly! :wink:
 

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