Mass attached to a rope. the rope encounters a nail.

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The discussion focuses on a physics problem involving a mass (M) attached to a rope (L) that encounters a nail at a distance (D). The velocity of the mass at the lowest point is determined using the conservation of energy, yielding a formula of v = √(2gL). Additionally, to ensure that the mass completes a circular motion around the nail, the minimum distance D must be set at 3/5 of the length of the rope (D = 3/5 L). The calculations are confirmed as correct by a participant named Ehild.

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Homework Statement


M is attached to a rope L and starts from horizontal. the rope hits a nail at distance D.
What is m's velocity when it reaches the lowest point.
At what minimal distance D should the nail be places so that m will complete a circle round the nail.
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Homework Equations


Kinetic energy: ##E_k=\frac{1}{2}mv^2##
Potential energy: ##E_p=mgh##
Centrifugal force: ##F=m\frac{v^2}{r}##

The Attempt at a Solution


Conservation of energy relative to the lowest point:
$$mgL=\frac{1}{2}mv^2\;\rightarrow\; v=\sqrt{2gL}$$
The centrifugal force at the top equals only the weight:
$$m\frac{v_2^2}{L-D}=mg\;\rightarrow\;v_2^2=(L-D)g$$
The kinetic energy at the bottom, which equals the initial potential energy, equals the potential and kinetic energy at the top:
$$\frac{1}{2}mg(L-D)+2\cdot mg(L-D)=mgL\;\rightarrow\; D=\frac{3}{5}L$$
 
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Karol said:

Homework Statement


M is attached to a rope L and starts from horizontal. the rope hits a nail at distance D.
What is m's velocity when it reaches the lowest point.
At what minimal distance D should the nail be places so that m will complete a circle round the nail.
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Homework Equations


Kinetic energy: ##E_k=\frac{1}{2}mv^2##
Potential energy: ##E_p=mgh##
Centrifugal force: ##F=m\frac{v^2}{r}##

The Attempt at a Solution


Conservation of energy relative to the lowest point:
$$mgL=\frac{1}{2}mv^2\;\rightarrow\; v=\sqrt{2gL}$$
The centrifugal force at the top equals only the weight:
$$m\frac{v_2^2}{L-D}=mg\;\rightarrow\;v_2^2=(L-D)g$$
The kinetic energy at the bottom, which equals the initial potential energy, equals the potential and kinetic energy at the top:
$$\frac{1}{2}mg(L-D)+2\cdot mg(L-D)=mgL\;\rightarrow\; D=\frac{3}{5}L$$
It looks correct.
 
Thank you Ehild
 

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