Mass on a spring non-homogeneous second order ODE

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The problem involves a mass-spring system described by a non-homogeneous second order ordinary differential equation (ODE). A 5 kg mass stretches a spring and is subjected to an external force and damping. The initial conditions include the mass being set in motion from its equilibrium position with a specific initial velocity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the determination of the spring constant and the effects of external forces and damping on the system. Questions arise regarding the correct formulation of the problem and the interpretation of forces acting on the mass.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided calculations for the spring constant and damping coefficient, while others express confusion about the initial conditions and the formulation of the ODE. There is an ongoing exploration of the general solution and the values of constants involved.

Contextual Notes

Participants note potential ambiguities in the problem statement regarding the terminology used to describe the forces acting on the mass. There is also a mention of the need for clarity in the equations used to represent the system's motion.

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Homework Statement


A mass of 5kg stretches a spring 10cm. The mass is acted upon by an external force of 10sin(t/2) Newtons and moves in a medium that imparts a viscous force of 2N when the speed of the mass is 4cm/sec. If the mass is set in motion from its equilibrium position with an initial velocity of 3 cm/sec, formulate and solve the initial value problem describing the motion of the mass.


Homework Equations



mx'' + γx' + kx = F0 cos(ω0t)

where γx' is the dampening force, k is the spring constant, and F0 cos(ω0t) is the external force.

The Attempt at a Solution



I know this is just a non-homogeneous second order ODE, but I am not sure where or how to get the spring constant, k, or ω. Thanks in advance for any help.
 
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flyinjoe said:
... I am not sure where or how to get the spring constant, k, ...

What is the equation if there were no external force applied after the 5kg mass is attached?
 
I'm not quite sure what you are asking. Are you referring to the motion of an undamped spring with no resonance?
 
No motion, just a hanging 5kg mass.

A mass of 5kg stretches a spring 10cm.
 
dlgoff said:
No motion, just a hanging 5kg mass.

Yes, it's a badly worded question. A mass does not stretch a spring, a force does. It should say "a weight of 5g N ..."
 
The force when it's just hanging there is

F = m * g = 5 * (9.81) = 49.05

And if F = -kx, k should equal 490.5. Using the initial condition of γ(.04 m/s) = 2 N, γ = 50. (Where γx' is the force due to damping).

When I plug this in and solve the DE, I get really bizarre values for the constants (A, B, C1, C2).

Are my calculations correct?
 
flyinjoe said:
The force when it's just hanging there is

F = m * g = 5 * (9.81) = 49.05

And if F = -kx, k should equal 490.5. Using the initial condition of γ(.04 m/s) = 2 N, γ = 50. (Where γx' is the force due to damping).

When I plug this in and solve the DE, I get really bizarre values for the constants (A, B, C1, C2).

Are my calculations correct?
What you've posted looks ok. Please post the rest of your working.
 
My general solution is

x(t) = c1e-5tcos(731t) + c2e-5tsin(731t) + 19/932 * cos(t/2) + 50/9599.6 * sin(t/2)

I haven't solved for constants yet.
 
flyinjoe said:
x(t) = c1e-5tcos(731t) + c2e-5tsin(731t) + 19/932 * cos(t/2) + 50/9599.6 * sin(t/2)
I don't understand. You previously posted that you got weird values for the constants. Now you say you have not calculated them yet?
I'd rather you kept symbols in the equation rather than subbing in the numbers - it makes it easier to follow what you are doing. Writing x(t) = e-λt{A cos(αt) + B sin(αt)} + C cos(t/2) + D sin(t/2) I get λ = γ/m. You seem to have half that. And I get a somewhat larger value for D (haven't calculated C).
 

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