Massless string pulled by a force

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The discussion centers on the concept of tension in a massless string subjected to a pulling force, F. It is established that tension arises when one part of the string pulls on another, maintaining equilibrium even when the net force is zero. The tension remains constant throughout the string as long as it is not accelerating, and if the string has mass, the tension will depend on its mass distribution. The conversation emphasizes the importance of understanding the physical implications of massless assumptions in tension calculations.

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andyrk said:
And if I say that I am fine with infinite acceleration, then what would the tension be?
This just results in a math fail. It's like asking if God can create a rock so big he can't lift it. It doesn't have an answer. Indeed, even stating that you apply a force to this string is impossible. So you're going to have to decide what you want to get out of this problem.
 
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In reality the string will have a small mass density ρ . Assuming that is moving with a finite acceleration a (because for example it is attached to other main bodies that do so) a length dx of the string will have a net force F=(ρdx)a=T(x+dx)-T(x)=dT as it follows from Newton's 2nd law. If the acceleration a is not too big such that the product ρa is small we can approximately say that the net force is zero from which it follows that dT=0 that is the tension along the string remain constant.

Finally i want to say something general that i find quite important when studying physics. It is quite often when studying physics that we do silent simplifying assumptions that simplify the calculations a lot and brighten only the key points of a phenomenon.If we don't make those assumption the study can become quite complex sometimes, so complex that we can't make any usefull conclusions.
 
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