Boundary conditions of a forced oscillator (string)

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of a forced oscillator represented by a string of fixed length L, particularly when external forces are applied. Participants explore the implications of these forces on the oscillation frequencies and the nature of the solutions to the wave equation governing the string's motion.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the process of finding frequencies of a fixed string by solving the wave equation with Dirichlet boundary conditions and notes the importance of initial conditions for amplitude.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of a particular solution in forced oscillation scenarios, suggesting that it oscillates at the frequency of the applied force, while free vibrations will eventually decay due to damping.
  • A different participant emphasizes the complexity introduced by external forces, stating that the nature of the force (e.g., a mass or a spring) affects the natural frequency of oscillation.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about whether the same principles regarding particular and homogeneous solutions apply to continuous systems as they do to discrete systems.
  • Another participant asserts that similar damping processes occur in continuous systems, leading to the dominance of the particular solution over time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on how external forces affect the oscillation frequencies and the nature of solutions in continuous versus discrete systems. There is no consensus on the treatment of the applied force or the implications for the solutions to the wave equation.

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Participants note the need for additional specifications regarding the nature of the external force and its impact on the system's frequency, indicating that assumptions about the force's characteristics are crucial for further analysis.

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-If we have string of length L that has fixed ends, then we can easily find frequencies with which this string can oscillate:
We just need to solve wave equation: ∂2y/∂x2=1/c2*∂2∂t2 (c is determined by strings properties (linear density and tension), with Dirichlet boundary conditions (y(0,t)=0, y(L,t)=0) Of course to determine how the string is oscillating we also need to know initial shape/speed of string (but that only tells us amplitude of each harmonic)

-But what happens when some force is acting on the string? Let's say that some force F(t) is acting at some distance xo from one end of the string? How do we find solution to this problem?
Can it be treated like some sort of boundary condition or should that force be added to wave equation or something else?
 
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The enduring (lasting) solution is the particular solution; the free vibration will die away sooner or later due to unavoidable damping. The particular solution will oscillate at the frequency of the excitation.If this is a stick-slip situation, such as a violin string, then it is going to be a bit messy, depending on the frequency at which slipping is starting.
 
cromata said:
-But what happens when some force is acting on the string?
The problem has instantly got a lot harder. You would need to specify what causes this force. If you are hanging a mass on the string then the natural frequency of oscillation would change. If you use a spring, the force will vary with displacement so the frequency would change. If you have a rocket engine, applying a constant force then I cannot see how the frequency would change.
 
Dr.D said:
The enduring (lasting) solution is the particular solution; the free vibration will die away sooner or later due to unavoidable damping. The particular solution will oscillate at the frequency of the excitation
I know that this is the case when there is forced discrete oscillating system (like masses connected with springs), and it can easily be shown for discrete systems that enduring solution is particular solution. But I wasn't sure that same thing happens with continuous system.
 
The same processes are at work in the continuuous system as were in the discrete system. Air drag and internal hysteresis still serve to induce damping, so the homogeneous solution will die away, leaving only the particular solution.
 
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