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The discussion revolves around seeking math exercises suitable for physics students, particularly those transitioning from the first semester to the second and third semesters. Participants share resources, suggest types of math skills needed, and express preferences for specific types of exercises, including proofs and advanced topics.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests math exercises with solutions for the second and third semesters, emphasizing the need for online resources or good books.
  • Another participant suggests that basic math skills such as equation solving, understanding vectors and scalars, basic geometry, differentiation, and integration concepts are sufficient for beginning classical mechanics.
  • A participant emphasizes the importance of mastering calculus for physics and suggests a specific online resource for calculus practice.
  • One participant mentions their upcoming math lecture topics, including determinants and function theory, indicating a need for exercises that align with these subjects.
  • Another participant reiterates the need for basic math skills but stresses the value of being familiar with more advanced mathematical techniques before applying them in physics contexts.
  • A participant inquires about the specific courses and types of problems the original poster is interested in, seeking clarification on their needs.
  • One participant expresses a preference for proof exercises, citing their experience with proofs in their first semester exams.
  • Another participant echoes the preference for proof exercises but questions the specificity of the original poster's request, asking for details on the topics covered in their courses.
  • Topics of interest mentioned include functions of two or more variables, Cauchy's Integral Formula, and matrix-related problems such as determinants and eigenvalue issues.
  • A participant recommends a specific calculus textbook, Thomas & Finny, for further study.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the necessary math skills for physics, with some suggesting that basic skills are sufficient while others advocate for a deeper understanding of advanced topics. There is no consensus on the specific types of exercises needed, as preferences for proofs versus computational problems are noted.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully defined the scope of their previous coursework or the specific mathematical topics they wish to explore further, leading to some ambiguity in the requests for exercises.

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Hey everybody,

i am studying physics and i have just managed the first semester. I want to train my math skills a little bit now. Therefore i would like to have some exercises (with solutions) in math for the second and third semester. I would like to have some online stuff (but good books are ok, too).
Is there anybody who can help me?

greetz Maiki
 
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If you want math problems, go on the math section or go to another place on the web.

However, if you are beginning classic mechanics, you don't need to know THAT much math all you need is:

Basic equation solving skills

Vectors and scalars(including dot and cross product and addition/subtraction)

Basic geometry

Basics of differentiation( at least know that d/dx x^n=(n)x^(n-1))

Differentiation of vector functions(if r(t)=x(t)i+y(t)j then r'(t)=x'(t)i+y'(t)j )

Integration concepts
 
What calculus courses have you taken, are taking, or are going to take? This is where you need to hone your math skills. If you are going into physics, becoming a master in calculus is a great start.

A quick search on Google found these http://www.math.utep.edu/Faculty/mabry/web/1411.htm" book will get you going.
 
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We have our own math lecture with a lot of stuff from real mathmatic-study. In the next semester we will start with determinants and later we will do functionstheroy with to variables and that kind of stuff and the most time we do proofs.
Therefore I need little bit more mathmatical exercises.
Actually just like real mathematician but not all topics.
 
Pinu7 said:
If you want math problems, go on the math section or go to another place on the web.

However, if you are beginning classic mechanics, you don't need to know THAT much math all you need is:

Basic equation solving skills

Vectors and scalars(including dot and cross product and addition/subtraction)

Basic geometry

Basics of differentiation( at least know that d/dx x^n=(n)x^(n-1))

Differentiation of vector functions(if r(t)=x(t)i+y(t)j then r'(t)=x'(t)i+y'(t)j )

Integration concepts

While you might be able to slide by with just these, based on my own experiences I'd suggest to study as much of the relevant math as possible before starting a physics class.
In my 2nd semester physics course I'm taking, the corequisite is Calculus II, but we quite often use concepts such as the gradient, differential equations (2nd order for SHM), basic PDE for fluid mechanics, triple and double integrals, etc. Even though we only really brushed on these techniques and use them in a limited scope, its MUCH better imo to be familiar with the mathematical techniques before having to apply them to physics problems. There's nothing worse than working on a physics problem for which you are both foggy on the physics AND the math behind it!
 
What courses do you want these problems to cover? What courses have you already taken? What kinds of problems do you want (straightforward or tricky? Computations or proofs?)
 
I would rather like proof exercises because in the 1. semester we had to do a lot of proofs for our exam.
 
Maiki2 said:
I would rather like proof exercises because in the 1. semester we had to do a lot of proofs for our exam.

I'm not for sure what you're trying to get at. If you want specific answers or exercises you must be specific. We don't know what you took in your first semester, nor what proofs you were required to do. What exactly have you covered in your courses that you want more practice on?
 
One big topic is 1. Functions of Two or More Variables
a next one is 2. Cauchy's Integral Formula
and last one is 3. Matrix stuff like determinants and eigenvalue problems
 
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Please refer Pearson education's book Thomas&Finny for calculus.(spell of the authors may be wrong)
 

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