Math noob + graphic design 3 point grid numbers equence

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on a graphic designer seeking assistance with a mathematical problem related to grid layouts in Adobe InDesign. The designer uses a document grid of 3 points on an 8.5" wide page (612 points) and aims to find a formula to identify instances where grid components align perfectly. The conversation highlights the need for an algorithm that can automate this process, potentially using PHP for implementation. The designer also mentions the possibility of creating lookup tables for various page sizes and grid configurations.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Adobe InDesign grid systems
  • Basic knowledge of mathematical sequences and alignment
  • Familiarity with PHP programming for algorithm development
  • Concept of document grids and their components (margins, columns, gutters)
NEXT STEPS
  • Research how to create algorithms in PHP for mathematical problem-solving
  • Explore advanced grid layout techniques in Adobe InDesign
  • Learn about mathematical sequences and their applications in design
  • Investigate the creation of lookup tables for grid alignment scenarios
USEFUL FOR

This discussion is beneficial for graphic designers, web developers, and anyone interested in optimizing layout designs using mathematical principles and programming techniques.

citizenzen
Messages
2
Reaction score
0
First, my apologies ... my last math class back in high school, sophomore year geometry, many years ago. I am a graphic designer, but have discovered an interesting math problem and would like some help identifying what it is and how to better express and use it.

Thanks for any help!

And now, the issue. For the sake of simplicity, I am only concerned with the horizontal measurements.

Graphic designers can employ a number of grids to provide a unifying structure for laying out pages. I use Adobe InDesign and these are the grid components that I use ...

Document Grid - Like graph paper, a document grid consists of a "net" of vertical and horizontal lines that (can) evenly space out a page.

Margins - provide space on the left and right edges of the page before columns begin.

Columns - divide the page into equally spaced horizontal sections

Column Gutters - provide space between each column​
There are a nearly infinite number of ways for all of these components to combine, However, in some cases, there are times when all of the components "match" and fall into perfect alignment. I have found a mathematical sequence that makes it easy to find these instances and I've attached a table I've created that identifies them.

Now I could either spend a lot of time creating tables to find each of these instances for all the varying page sizes and document grids, or ideally I could find a single equation that I can plug in the variables and find the answer.

So I need some help. What realm of mathematics am I dealing with here? Can somebody help me come up with the equation that can solve this problem?

Below is the first of my tables. It applies to an 8.5" wide page (612 points) and assumes a document grid of 3 points. The gold blocks indicate that the margin offset could be zero as well as the number in the block. The red multiplier to the right of the column designation above the table indicates the margin width, which can be any product of that number. The margin offset needs to be added to that product to create the matching grid.

I hope that makes sense.

Thanks again!
 

Attachments

  • Screen shot 2011-07-03 at 8.40.20 AM.png
    Screen shot 2011-07-03 at 8.40.20 AM.png
    27.2 KB · Views: 512
Mathematics news on Phys.org
Don't know if you can generate a formula for this but I do this kind of thing from time to time rather trivially in computer software such that I just stick in the parameters and the value I want pops out. SO ... what I'm saying is that an algorithm can be constructed to do it, but that may not resolve down to a single equation it may involve putting some of the constraints into tables for lookup.

If you have software folks in your organization it should only take one of them 15 minutes or so to do it for you.
 
phinds said:
If you have software folks in your organization it should only take one of them 15 minutes or so to do it for you.

I was thinking I might be able to come up with something using PHP. I've done enough work with that in the past to muddle my way through.
 

Similar threads

Replies
7
Views
2K
  • · Replies 10 ·
Replies
10
Views
5K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
Replies
6
Views
4K
Replies
1
Views
2K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
2K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
1K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
629