Mathematics, and Economics Job Prospects

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The discussion revolves around the job prospects for graduates with degrees in mathematics and economics, particularly focusing on the potential for employment in the United States and Europe. Participants explore the relevance of these degrees in the job market, the necessity of further education, and the current economic climate in Europe.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confidence that a strong math background is beneficial for graduate programs in economics, suggesting that a double major may not be necessary.
  • Another participant questions the job prospects in mathematics and economics, implying that intrinsic motivation should take precedence over financial considerations.
  • Concerns are raised about the economic situation in Europe, with one participant citing high youth unemployment rates and negative GDP growth, challenging the notion that Europe is currently booming and hiring.
  • Some participants propose that the job market may vary significantly by country within Europe, suggesting that while some areas may be hiring, the overall picture is more complex.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the job prospects for mathematics and economics graduates. There are competing views regarding the economic conditions in Europe, with some asserting a labor shortage while others highlight significant unemployment issues.

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Participants reference various economic indicators and personal experiences, but there are unresolved assumptions regarding the stability of the job market and the impact of further education on employability.

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Hi everyone, I've set up my schedule through the next three years so that I will be able to graduate with a double major in mathematics, and economics (both bachelor of science). I was just wondering if anyone knew the job outlook on these two degrees. I have a strong interest in both disciplines, and feel that they both benefit each other quite nicely.

I was also wondering how other countries look upon degrees from american public universities. I've always wanted to live in Europe for a few years, and was wondering if these degrees will allow me to find work internationally, or if I would need a Masters, or PHd in economics in order to find work related to the field. I'm mostly looking into economic consulting, or economic development as future career plans.
 
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You will be very well prepared for a graduate entry in economics. Back when I was an econ major I was constantly looking at grad programs, and the number one thing that they desired in applicants was strong math background. Most of them wanted a minimum of 1 sem. Real Analysis, one sem. Linear Algebra, Statistics (not the gen ed one), Calc1-3, and differential equations but preferable more. Honestly it might be easier for you to just drop the second major and just do a minor in economics, because you will cover the basic quantitative econ prerequisites of Intermediate Micro and Macro, and Econometrics without worrying about all the "liberal-artsy" fluff classes.
 
If I told you the job prospects in math and econ right now were dismal, would you switch majors? If so, why? If you still have three years of undergrad left, you are quite young, which means you have many years yet ahead in which to betray your passion for a good paycheck. It sounds like you really like math and economics. That is to say, you are intrinsically motivated. So just go for both if you love 'em. You don't know where they'll take you, but try to enjoy the ride. Take classes that engage your curiosity, even if they're "liberal-artys fluff classes".

I think you're getting ahead of yourself with your concerns. Think about grad school in another year or two, at the earliest, and for now just expand your mind and keep your grades up. I have a feeling you're looking for affirmation of a decision you've already made- that of majoring in math and econ, which is fine. You're doing fine. Really. Grad school and working in Europe are not scenarios likely to be affected by decisions you make now, with the caveat that you should major in math if econ graduate school interests you.

I don't know if you've heard much about it, but Europe's economy is booming right now, and there is actually a labour shortage. The European Central Bank in particular is short on economists to help restructure Greece's loans, so as to ensure they remain forever in debt peonage. Getting a job should be easy.
 
lambgyro said:
I don't know if you've heard much about it, but Europe's economy is booming right now, and there is actually a labour shortage.

I wasn't aware of this.

I do know that European GDP growth was negative in 2012. I know that http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/cache/ITY_PUBLIC/4-05022013-AP/EN/4-05022013-AP-EN.PDF , housing prices are falling and other economic indicators are also negative.

I also know that http://epp.eurostat.ec.europa.eu/cache/ITY_PUBLIC/3-01022013-BP/EN/3-01022013-BP-EN.PDF[/url More importantly, youth unemployment is well over 20% overall in Europe. More than half of all young people in Span and Greece are out of work, and youth unemployment rates in several other countries are over 30%.

There might be a country within the EU that is "booming" and hiring, and there might be good subsectors within even the worst countries. . . but you'll have to explain how Europe as a whole is booming and a great place to get hired.
 
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