Matrix Derivation: 2x1 A and B with Dimension and dA/dB Calculation

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The discussion revolves around the derivation of a matrix expression involving two 2x1 matrices, A and B, and the calculation of the derivative dA/dB. Participants explore the dimensions of the resultant matrix and the nature of the derivative in the context of vector-valued functions.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant requests assistance with the derivative of matrices A and B, specifically seeking the dimension of the resultant matrix.
  • Another participant asks for clarification on the function to be differentiated.
  • A participant presents a Jacobian matrix as the derivative dA/dB, suggesting it is the correct approach for the vector-valued function g(y,x)=(f(x),x).
  • A similar response is reiterated by another participant, confirming the Jacobian matrix and expressing gratitude for the assistance.
  • Another participant introduces a different question regarding the derivative of a product involving a square matrix and its transpose, indicating a shift in the topic.
  • A final post advises the participant with the new question to create a separate thread and suggests that homework-related inquiries should be posted in designated forums.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

There appears to be some agreement on the formulation of the Jacobian matrix for the derivative dA/dB, but the discussion remains unresolved regarding the new question introduced about the derivative of a different matrix expression.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the functions involved and the context of the derivative calculations, which are not fully specified. The transition to a new question introduces additional complexity that is not directly related to the initial inquiry.

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Participants interested in matrix calculus, Jacobian matrices, and those seeking help with homework-related questions in linear algebra may find this discussion relevant.

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Hi,

I need help with matrix derivation. I have 2 matrices of dimension 2x1, A and B.
A = [f(x) x]^{T}
B = [y x]^{T}

I would like to find the dA/dB. How do I do this? and what is the dimension of the resultant matrix?
 
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What is the function that you want to take the derivative of?
 
\frac{D(A)}{D(B)}=\left(\begin{array}{cc}\frac{\partial f(x)}{\partial y}&\frac{\partial f(x)}{\partial x}\\\frac{\partial x}{\partial y}&\frac{\partial x}{\partial x}\end{array}\right)=\left(\begin{array}{cc}0&f^\prime\\0&1\end{array}\right)

This should be it if I'm not mistaken. What you're asking is basically the Jacobian matrix of a vector-valued function g(y,x)=(f(x),x)
 
batboio said:
\frac{D(A)}{D(B)}=\left(\begin{array}{cc}\frac{\partial f(x)}{\partial y}&\frac{\partial f(x)}{\partial x}\\\frac{\partial x}{\partial y}&\frac{\partial x}{\partial x}\end{array}\right)=\left(\begin{array}{cc}0&f^\prime\\0&1\end{array}\right)

This should be it if I'm not mistaken. What you're asking is basically the Jacobian matrix of a vector-valued function g(y,x)=(f(x),x)

thank you very much. that helped a lot.
 
please help me about this quastion :
suppse A be a square matrix and X be a coln matrix AT and XT are their transpos matrices find a formula for this derivative :
d XTATAX/ dA
 
Please create a new thread for your question. And if it is homework, it belongs in the homework forums.
 

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