Matrix representing projection operators

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the matrix representation of projection operators in quantum mechanics, particularly focusing on whether a wavefunction must be normalized before calculating the projection operator. The scope includes theoretical considerations and mathematical reasoning related to projection operators.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation, Homework-related, Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • Timmy questions if normalization of the wavefunction is necessary before determining the projection operator, providing examples of two wavefunctions, Ψ1 and Ψ2, with only Ψ1 being normalized.
  • Some participants propose that normalization is required to build a proper projection operator, citing that a projection operator should satisfy the condition PP=P, which implies that the inner product <ψ|ψ> must equal 1.
  • Others argue that the resulting operator is Hermitian regardless of whether the wavefunction is normalized.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that normalization is necessary for the projection operator to meet specific mathematical properties, but there is a recognition that the operator remains Hermitian even if the wavefunction is not normalized. The discussion reflects multiple views on the necessity of normalization.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved aspects regarding the implications of using non-normalized wavefunctions in the context of projection operators and the specific mathematical steps involved in the calculations.

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Hey everyone! I have a question regarding the matrix representation of a projection operator. Specifically, does the wavefunction have to be normalized before determining the projection operator? For example:

|Ψ1> = 1/3|u1> + i/3|u2> + 1/3|u3>

|Ψ2> = 1/3|u1> + i/3|u3>

Ψ1 is obviously normalized and Ψ2 isnt

Now to calculate the matrix that represents the projection operator, just make row and column matrices and multiply out. For Ψ1:

| 1/3|u1> |
| i/3|u2> | * (| 1/3|u1> i/3|u2> 1/3|u3> |)
| 1/3|u3> |

Which gives a 3x3 Hermitian matrix.

My question is do I have to normalize Ψ2 in order to do the same process? The result is a Hermitian operator either way, I believe, but I just want to know if 'technically' it needs to be normalized first.

thanks for any input!

Timmy
 
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ps: I realize this is a little 'homeworky' and if it is too much so, I apologize for posting it in the wrong place.
 
yes if you want to build a projection operator out of a wavefunction then the wavefunction has to be normalized, but it's also true that it's Hermitian either way. A projection operator P should obey PP=P, so |[tex]\psi[/tex]><[tex]\psi[/tex]|[tex]\psi[/tex]><[tex]\psi[/tex]|=|[tex]\psi[/tex]><[tex]\psi[/tex]| requires <[tex]\psi[/tex]|[tex]\psi[/tex]>=1
 
Alright! Thanks for the help--I appreciate it!

Timmy
 

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