Max Energy Stored in Magnetic Field from Elastic Collision of Carts"

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The problem involves two carts colliding elastically due to repelling magnets, with the goal of determining the maximum energy stored in the magnetic field. The first cart has a mass of 1.0 kg and is moving at 4.0 m/s, while the second cart has a mass of 3.0 kg and is moving at 2.0 m/s.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the conservation of momentum and the conditions at the moment of collision, questioning how to calculate the kinetic energy when both carts have the same velocity.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem. Some have suggested using conservation of momentum to find the common velocity, while others are seeking clarification on which equations to apply and how to proceed with the calculations.

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Participants express urgency due to an upcoming exam, which may influence their approach and the level of detail in their questions. There is also mention of initial kinetic energy and its distribution during the collision, indicating a focus on energy conservation principles.

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Homework Statement



A 1.0 Kg cart moving at 4.0 m/s overtakes and collides with a 3.0 kg cart moving in the same direction at 2.0 m/s on the same track. Given that these carts collide elastically due to repelling magnets, determine the maximum energy stored in the magnetic field.



Homework Equations


Ke = 1/2mv^2
Ktotal = Ke + Ke


The Attempt at a Solution


Hey guys, I have an exam tomorrow and can't seem to figure this out. I found the total kinetic energy in the system, to be at 14 J. However, I do not know what to do from here on.
 
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Hi hybridized! Welcome to PF :smile:

At the time when the carts collide, their velocities will be same. Do you see why this is true? :wink:
 
So if their velocities are the same, I found the Kinetic energy before cart 1 collides, and after cart 2 gets hit. So in that middle is where the energy is stored or at its max? So how would I go on about to calculate the total energy. Exam in 30 mins!
 
hybridized said:
So in that middle is where the energy is stored or at its max? So how would I go on about to calculate the total energy. Exam in 30 mins!

Yes. Find the kinetic energy at the instant when both are moving with the same velocity. And you already know the initial kinetic energy(before collision). So now, this initial energy is distributed as the kinetic energy when velocities are equal and the energy stored in the magnetic field.
 
Infinitum said:
Yes. Find the kinetic energy at the instant when both are moving with the same velocity. And you already know the initial kinetic energy(before collision). So now, this initial energy is distributed as the kinetic energy when velocities are equal and the energy stored in the magnetic field.

K so bro, which velocity would I use? Or do I find delta v? to find the kinetic energy when they have the same velocity.
 
Would you be kind enough to write down the equations i must use to find the total kinetic energy stored? Cause I found the total energy for the two carts, but I'm stuck from there... Which velocity do I use when they are moving at the same speed.
 
hybridized said:
K so bro, which velocity would I use? Or do I find delta v? to find the kinetic energy when they have the same velocity.

You cannot use a velocity because you need to find the velocity!

But, you sure can use the conservation of linear momentum :wink:
 
O so, m1+v1 + m2v2 = mtvt

v1 and v1 cancel as they are the same, solve for vt and then plug into 1/2mv^2 and then add to the Ke i found in the beginning ?
 
hybridized said:
O so, m1+v1 + m2v2 = mtvt

v1 and v1 cancel as they are the same, solve for vt and then plug into 1/2mv^2 and then add to the Ke i found in the beginning ?

Noo...

By conservation of momentum you should have...

m_1v_1 + m_2v_2 = (m_1+m_2)v

and not m1+v1..
 

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