Calculate the final velocity of each cart after a collision

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The discussion revolves around an elastic collision problem involving two carts with specified masses and velocities. The original poster presents their calculations for the final velocities of the carts after the collision, expressing uncertainty about the accuracy of the book's answer.

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  • Participants discuss the calculations related to the elastic collision and question the validity of the book's answer. There are requests for detailed work to understand the discrepancies in results. Some participants also raise concerns about the mass values provided for the carts.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with multiple interpretations of the problem being explored. Some participants suggest that the book's answer may be incorrect based on their calculations, while others are seeking clarification on the mass values and the implications of those values on the results.

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There are indications that the problem may involve missing or misrepresented data, as participants speculate about the mass of the carts and its effect on the calculated outcomes. The nature of the collision being elastic is also a point of focus.

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Homework Statement


Cart 1 has a mass of 1.5 kg and is moving on a track at 36.5 cm/s [E] toward cart 2. The mass of cart 2 is 5 kg, and it is moving toward cart 1 at 42.8 cm/s [W]. The carts collide. The collision is cushioned by a Hooke's law spring, making it an elastic head-on collision. Calculate the final velocity of each cart after collision.

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I plugged all my values into the head-on elastic collision formulas and I got vi1=84cm/s but the answer in the book is 3.15cm/s. I am really sure I have the right answer. Is there a mistake in the book?
 
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I'm not liking any of the answers, yours or the book's (although yours looks somewhat better :smile: )

Can you show your work in detail?
 
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rrosa522 said:

Homework Statement


Cart 1 has a mass of 1.5 kg and is moving on a track at 36.5 cm/s [E] toward cart 2. The mass of cart 2 is 5 kg, and it is moving toward cart 1 at 42.8 cm/s [W]. The carts collide. The collision is cushioned by a Hooke's law spring, making it an elastic head-on collision. Calculate the final velocity of each cart after collision.

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The Attempt at a Solution


I plugged all my values into the head-on elastic collision formulas and I got vi1=84cm/s but the answer in the book is 3.15cm/s. I am really sure I have the right answer. Is there a mistake in the book?
Are you sure about the mass of cart 2?
 
The answer in the text I believe is incorrect I got -85cm/s like u
 
Physicsfailure123 said:
The answer in the text I believe is incorrect I got -85cm/s like u
Can you show your work in detail? (I'm not disagreeing or agreeing with your conclusion, but we don't simply confirm/deny answers here).
 
The book answer would be correct if either cart 1 had a mass of 15kg or cart 2 a mass of .5kg.
 
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The elastic collision impulse (calculated using formula Δp=2μΔv) is 1.83 Ns. Can be subtracted from the pre-collision momentum of each cart to find the final momentum and hence velocity. Seems to agree - more or less - with answer of -84 (-85) cm/s obtained by OP and PhysicsFailure123 (for Cart 1).
 
neilparker62 said:
The elastic collision impulse (calculated using formula Δp=2μΔv) is 1.83 Ns. Can be subtracted from the pre-collision momentum of each cart to find the final momentum and hence velocity. Seems to agree - more or less - with answer of -84 (-85) cm/s obtained by OP and PhysicsFailure123 (for Cart 1).
I think it is fairly clear there is either an extra decimal point or, more likely, a missing one in the given data. See post #6.
 
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haruspex said:
I think it is fairly clear there is either an extra decimal point or, more likely, a missing one in the given data. See post #6.
Yes, if we take cart 1 to have mass 15kg , then the collision impulse Δp will be ##594.75 \times 10^{-2}Ns ## and subtracting this from the initial momentum of cart 1 will lead to the book answer of 3.15cm/s (west) for final velocity of cart 1.
 

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