Maxima and minima and finding the radius of the circle

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves finding the maximum value of an angle θ related to a geometric configuration involving a circle. The original poster mentions a specific equation for a circle and constraints on the methods allowed for solving the problem.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various methods to find the maximum angle θ, including trigonometric relationships and the central angle theorem. The original poster expresses doubt about the feasibility of solving the problem without certain methods, such as the law of cosines.

Discussion Status

There is active engagement with multiple approaches being explored. Some participants suggest alternative methods, while the original poster seeks confirmation and further guidance on the problem's constraints.

Contextual Notes

The original poster is restricted from using the law of cosines and is looking for other ways to calculate the angle or the value of x. There is a mention of a specific center for the circle and its radius, which are relevant to the discussion.

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Homework Statement


Find where θ is the biggest (largest) I'll have the picture of the problem included below (pic:1)
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Homework Equations


(x-q)2+(y+5/2)2=r2
answer x= 2

The Attempt at a Solution


Hi, so my prefesor gave me this problem and told me to try to solve it. We already did this problem in school and got the answer that x=2.
The trick here is that I am not allowed to use:
the law of cosines
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therefore I have tried to circumscribe a circle and found out that the center is located at
S(n,5/2)
and
T1=(0,4)
T2=(0,1)
I would now like to know if you guys could help me calculate the perimeter or alternatively if you guys could tell me about some other way to calculate x or θ
thank you
 
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One way (depending on your trigonometric and calculus skills) would be to see that ##\theta = \theta_1 - \theta_2## with ##\tan\theta_1 = {4\over x} ## and ##\tan\theta_2 = {1\over x} ##. And, since ##0 < \theta<{\pi\over 2}##, ##\ \ \ \theta = {\rm max} ## if ##\tan\theta = \rm max##
 
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Thanks for the answer.
That was the way we did it in the classroom. And the professor also mentioned that this could be solved using the law of cosine. However he asked me if I could find a way to calculate x or θ without using this two ways. I have been trying to do this for about 30 min and I am starting to doubt if this is even possible
 
You can employ the central angle theorem. But in order to do this, you have to find the correct center of the circle you have constructed on your calculation. The y coordinate can be easily seen to be 5/2, this leaves you the x coordinate of the center. Having found both the coordinate of the circle's center and its radius, you can use the central angle to do the optimization. This method requires a bit more of algebra though.
 
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Thanks for the reply. I really appreciate the help.
 

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