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The discussion focuses on finding the equation of an ellipse that is symmetric about the coordinate axes and passes through a fixed point (h, k), aiming to maximize its area. The correct equation for the ellipse is given as x²/a² + y²/b² = 1, with the area expressed as πab. The condition for the point (h, k) to lie on the ellipse leads to the equation a²k² + b²h² = a²b². There is confusion regarding maximizing versus minimizing the area, as the maximum area is unbounded, while the critical point indicates a minimum area. The participants suggest using parametric equations or single-variable methods to solve the problem, considering the audience's limited knowledge of multivariable calculus.
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347) An ellipse slmetric with respect to the coordinate axes handle: through the fixed point (h, k). Find The equation of the ellipse's?
area maximum
answer k2/SUP] h 2 + h 2 y 2 = 2 h 2 k2 The equations here must be
y = m(x-h)+k

Parametrizing
x= a cos(t)
y = b(sen(t)

D= (a cost-h)2+((macosth-h)2+ k -k)2

am I right?
Becuse I could not get the right answer
 
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leprofece said:
347) An ellipse slmetric with respect to the coordinate axes handle: through the fixed point (h, k). Find The equation of the ellipse's?
area maximum
answer k2/SUP] h 2 + h 2 y 2 = 2 h 2 k2 The equations here must be
y = m(x-h)+k

Parametrizing
x= a cos(t)
y = b(sen(t)

D= (a cost-h)2+((macosth-h)2+ k -k)2

am I right?
Becuse I could not get the right answer

If I understand it correctly, the problem is to find an ellipse symmetric about the coordinate axes and passing through the fixed point $(h,k)$, such that the ellipse has the minimum possible area. (The question says maximum area, but in fact the only critical point is a minimum, and the maximum area is unbounded.)

The equation of the ellipse is $\dfrac{x^2}{a^2} + \dfrac{y^2}{b^2} = 1$, and we have to choose $a$ and $b$ so as to minimise the area of the ellipse, which is $\pi ab.$ The condition for the point $(h,k)$ to lie on the ellipse is $\dfrac{h^2}{a^2} + \dfrac{k^2}{b^2} = 1$, or $a^2k^2 + b^2h^2 = a^2b^2$. So we want to minimise $ab$ subject to the constraint $a^2k^2 + b^2h^2 = a^2b^2$. The usual way to solve problems of that sort is to use the method of Lagranga multipliers.
 
Opalg said:
If I understand it correctly, the problem is to find an ellipse symmetric about the coordinate axes and passing through the fixed point $(h,k)$, such that the ellipse has the minimum possible area. (The question says maximum area, but in fact the only critical point is a minimum, and the maximum area is unbounded.)

The equation of the ellipse is $\dfrac{x^2}{a^2} + \dfrac{y^2}{b^2} = 1$, and we have to choose $a$ and $b$ so as to minimise the area of the ellipse, which is $\pi ab.$ The condition for the point $(h,k)$ to lie on the ellipse is $\dfrac{h^2}{a^2} + \dfrac{k^2}{b^2} = 1$, or $a^2k^2 + b^2h^2 = a^2b^2$. So we want to minimise $ab$ subject to the constraint $a^2k^2 + b^2h^2 = a^2b^2$. The usual way to solve problems of that sort is to use the method of Lagranga multipliers.

thanks sorry but the students here haven't studied 2wo variables yet so it should be answerred or with one variable or with parametrics So I wrote parametrics in what I did
can you or anyone help me ??
 
Perhaps you could solve the constraint for either of the two variables and then use substitution to obtain an objective function in one variable...(Thinking)
 
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