Maximizing Generator Performance: Motor and Dynamo Specs & Tips

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around optimizing generator performance, specifically focusing on the specifications of a motor and dynamo, and exploring methods to effectively drive the generator. Participants are seeking advice on mechanical setups, including pulleys and flywheels, as well as electrical considerations for measuring and controlling high currents.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant provides specifications for a DC motor and a dynamo, asking for ideas on how to drive the generator.
  • Another participant suggests using pulleys and a belt, noting that output cannot exceed input.
  • There is a question about the necessity of using flywheels, with some suggesting they are only needed if the load is highly variable.
  • Concerns are raised about the generator having greater horsepower than the motor, questioning if this is problematic and whether horsepower needs to be matched.
  • One participant expresses a desire for calculations related to the pulley system and flywheel design, indicating a goal to generate electricity to charge batteries connected to the motor.
  • A later reply argues that the generator may not provide enough power to charge the batteries while also powering the motor, suggesting that the setup could lead to increased energy loss.
  • There are inquiries about creating a current measuring circuit capable of handling high currents, with requests for specific circuit designs or devices.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of the proposed generator and motor setup, with some arguing that it may not work as intended. There is no consensus on whether the horsepower mismatch is a significant issue or how best to approach the design of the system.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions regarding the performance of the motor and generator, the role of flywheels, and the implications of using batteries. There are unresolved questions about the calculations needed for the pulley system and the specifics of measuring high currents.

Who May Find This Useful

Individuals interested in generator design, mechanical systems involving pulleys, and electrical engineering related to high current measurements may find this discussion relevant.

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motor specs are..
dc motor single phase 24 volts 49.6 amp 3000rpm, 1hp

dynmo specs are:
dynamo 1500 rpm 31.5amp output current 8hp

shaft of motor 1.3cm diameter and dynamo 3.5cm approx

please tell me the ideas to drive the generator? give explained answers
 
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Pulleys and a belt.

You are aware though that the output won't exceed the input, right?
 
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yeah...
do i have to use flywheels?
 
generator have greater horse power than motor
is that a problem? do i have to match the horse power? or pulleys do this ?
 
hashmi said:
yeah...
do i have to use flywheels?
Not unless the load on the generator is highly variable.
 
hashmi said:
generator have greater horse power than motor
is that a problem? do i have to match the horse power? or pulleys do this ?
You don't have to match them, but it would be a waste not to, because of what I said in my first post.

Why are you doing this? What purpose will it serve?
 
can u give me some calculations of pulley system according to my need...i don't know how to calculate..
also give me some best site or pdf for flywheel calculation..

i want to generate electricity using generator which again charge batteries attached to motor.
i know the speed gradually start to decrease and system going to stop.but i have to design this system.
 
can anyone tell me how to make a current measuring circuit shich can measure upto 200A
 
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hashmi said:
can u give me some calculations of pulley system according to my need...i don't know how to calculate..
also give me some best site or pdf for flywheel calculation..

i want to generate electricity using generator which again charge batteries attached to motor.
i know the speed gradually start to decrease and system going to stop.but i have to design this system.

You can't do this. Your generator cannot put enough power out to charge the battery as well as power the motor which is what you would be doing. If you were to eliminate the battery you still would not have enough to run the motor. It would slow down just as quickly if not quicker than if you mechanically coupled the motor and generator together and spun them up manually with no electrical connections. If you used your scheme to charge the batteries the only thing the motor-generator setup does is increase the loss. It is a net drain. The real energy would be coming from whatever spins this combo up in the first place. And if this is the battery then you are just needlessly expediting the drain on the battery. If you want to charge batteries you need to just use the generator powered by something else.
 
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yeah i understand ...
can anyone tell me how to measure and control high currents
 
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You need to be more specific here. Measure and control high currents. Do you mean find a switch that is able to handle 200 amps? When you say measure, how accurate do you need to be?
 
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i want a circuit or device that create a check on current value ..if it decrease a certain limit,,i willon some switches or do some other task.. but the current is high..
 
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will on *
 

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