Maximizing range of projectile on a wedge

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The problem involves maximizing the horizontal range of a projectile launched from the top of a frictionless wedge inclined at 30 degrees. The original poster attempts to analyze the motion by rotating the coordinate axes and breaking down the forces acting on the projectile.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the implications of rotating the axes and how it affects the representation of horizontal range. There are questions about the validity of the approach taken by the original poster, particularly regarding the relationship between the distance traveled on the wedge and the horizontal range.

Discussion Status

Some participants have pointed out potential issues with the original poster's method, suggesting that the trajectory does not depend on the slope and that the horizontal range may not be accurately represented after the axes are rotated. The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of the original poster's confusion regarding the relationship between maximizing distance on the wedge and maximizing horizontal range. This indicates a possible misunderstanding of the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


A greasy spud is launched off of the top of an infinitely large frictionless wedge. The angle that the wedge slopes down at is 30 degrees. Find the launch angle that maximizes the horizontal range of the spud.

Homework Equations

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x = x0 + vxt + (1/2)at2

The Attempt at a Solution


I began by rotating the axes so that the x-axis would be parallel with the wedge. Then I divided gravity into x and y components.

ax = sin(30)mg

ay = cos(30)mg

Then I found the total time the spud is in the air

t = 2(sinθv0)/(cos(30)mg)

The horizontal range of the spud can be written as

x = cosθv0t + (1/2)(sinθmg)t2

Substituting for t yields

x = ((2sinθv02)/(cos(30))(cosθ + (sin2θ)/(cos(30))

I then took the derivative of cos(θ) + sin2(θ))/(cos(30) with respect to θ and got

2cosθsinθ/cos(30) - sinθ

setting this equal to zero and solving for theta yielded 64.3 degrees. Then, subtracting the angle through which I rotated the axes gives 34.3 degrees.
 
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AlephNumbers said:
Substituting for t yields

x = ((2sinθv02)/(cos(30))(cosθ + (sin2θ)/(cos(30))

Check the parentheses!
You made the job difficult with rotating the axes. The trajectory of the projectile, y(x) (height-horizontal displacement) does not depend on the slope, and the x range can be found where y(x) intersects the line of the slope.
 
Having rotated the axes, x no longer represents horizontal range.
 
ehild said:
The trajectory of the projectile, y(x) (height-horizontal displacement) does not depend on the slope

haruspex said:
Having rotated the axes, x no longer represents horizontal range.

Right. That was a bit silly of me. So what I solved for was the angle that maximizes the distance covered on the wedge. For some reason I thought that if I maximized the distance that the spud would travel on the wedge I would also maximize the horizontal range.
 

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