Maximizing Success: Strategies for Becoming a Hard Worker in Math and Physics

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The discussion centers around strategies for becoming a more effective and hardworking student in math and physics. Participants share tips, resources, and personal experiences related to managing increased workloads and developing a strong work ethic in challenging academic environments.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks advice on frameworks and tools for managing a heavier workload and becoming a more efficient student.
  • Another suggests that studying topics of personal interest can enhance motivation and engagement.
  • Several participants emphasize the importance of sleep, with differing opinions on the amount needed for optimal performance.
  • A participant argues that working smart is crucial, advocating for understanding concepts deeply rather than just completing assignments.
  • Another contributor highlights the necessity of setting clear academic goals to maintain motivation and focus.
  • Some participants discuss the balance between hard work and leisure, suggesting that maintaining hobbies is important for mental health.
  • One participant mentions the diminishing returns of excessive study hours and the importance of planning and scheduling tasks effectively.
  • There is a suggestion to contact professors ahead of time to prepare for upcoming courses.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and differing views on the best strategies for hard work, the importance of sleep, and the balance between study and leisure activities. No consensus is reached on a single approach or methodology.

Contextual Notes

Some claims about the effectiveness of certain study methods and the relationship between effort and academic success remain subjective and depend on individual experiences. The discussion does not resolve the varying opinions on the optimal amount of sleep or the balance between work and leisure.

Who May Find This Useful

Students in math and physics looking for strategies to enhance their study habits and work ethic may find this discussion beneficial.

  • #31
mathwonk said:
unfortunately it is likely that logging on here and chatting about working is a typical way to put off actually getting down to work. At least it seems to be for me.
:smile::smile::smile:

Also part of working smart in math and physics... On your HW and notes:
Write clearly.
Don't skip steps.
Understand each step. Include a written explanation for critical steps (in notes and HW).
Carry your units (if units apply).
Analyze your result. Ask yourself if the number and units make sense. Even make written notes here... or graph a result to see if it makes sense.
Ask yourself... is this the ONLY way to do the problem, or is there another way? If you think there might be, try it out... see if you get the same result!
 
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  • #32
Aim for the stars and you'll land on the moon!
 
  • #33
Gauged said:
Aim for the stars and you'll land on the moon!
Damn! Plan a trip to the moon and you'll trip over your ottoman. Or perhaps fall out of your chair.

Progress!
 
  • #34
Just to add...

Always have some goal. Don't make it too low to where you don't have to push hard, but don't make it too high to where it's nearly insane.

Shut out distractions. Have a passion, if not an interest, in what you're working on. Don't forget the long term reason if why you're doing it.

And although it's not always healthy, competition is always a powerful motivator.
 
  • #35
I think the key is to change your beliefs on what's fun and what's not. You can make make watching TV, wasting time painful and learning fun. Its called simulated happiness, it should work but I haven't try it yet.
 
  • #36
work is mostly about how you allocate your time. to save time, do not drink alcohol, or watch tv, or read novels, or gossip, or log on here.
 
  • #37
Align whatever you're doing with your values and if they are out of sync change one of them
 
  • #38
well, you have to work at it! har har har.
 
  • #39
mathwonk said:
work is mostly about how you allocate your time. to save time, do not drink alcohol, or watch tv, or read novels, or gossip, or log on here.

that is my only lamentation when in the trenches. no time for leisure reading.
 
  • #40
Do what Paul Erdos did.
 
  • #41
Bourbaki1123 said:
Do what Paul Erdos did.

What exactly is that? Amphetamines?
 
  • #42
Bourbaki1123 said:
Do what Paul Erdos did.

Wow, he is scary and amazing
 
  • #43
I rely on only the best: cocaine
 
  • #44
physics girl phd said:
:smile::smile::smile:

Also part of working smart in math and physics... On your HW and notes:
Write clearly.
Don't skip steps.
Understand each step. Include a written explanation for critical steps (in notes and HW).
Carry your units (if units apply).
Analyze your result. Ask yourself if the number and units make sense. Even make written notes here... or graph a result to see if it makes sense.
Ask yourself... is this the ONLY way to do the problem, or is there another way? If you think there might be, try it out... see if you get the same result!

This is my favorite response. I have yet to earn my degree, however have studied enough in other areas to be able to say that the advice given above is priceless.

Lack of motivation, laziness, disinterest and the like, can sometimes stem from simply not understanding the material. As has been said before, there will be times when this is not the case and you simply are just not as interested in something, however, those times do not have to rob you of success.

The approach given in the quote encourages one to make a greater effort at understanding something. Sometimes we do not seek a greater understanding of things because of a lack of interest. This is where I believe the 'hard work' part comes in. If you make an effort to focus your efforts and attention on understanding something at a deeper level (often when you do not feel like doing so), you may find that you end up discovering something about it that will not only spark in you a greater interest, but also increase your chances of retaining the material.

This approach also has the added benefit of developing good habits to take with you as you move on in whatever you end up doing. Make genuine efforts to understand what you are doing and take the time to make sure that you are doing it right. Take on an attitude of excellence. This is most often a choice, not an ability, as I find that I do not always feel like it. Take control of your thoughts, and do not let the instability of your emotions rob you of opportunity.

-Robert
 

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