Maximum and Minimum Forces for Elevator Design

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The discussion focuses on calculating the maximum and minimum forces required for an elevator design with a mass of 4950 kg and a maximum acceleration of 6.10×10-2g. The initial attempts at solving the problem resulted in incorrect values due to confusion over the acceleration units and their application in the force equations. The correct approach involves using the formula F = ma + mg, where acceleration must be converted from g to m/s². After recalculating, the maximum force is determined to be 51500 N, prompting further inquiry into the calculation of the minimum force. The conversation highlights the importance of correctly interpreting acceleration in relation to gravitational force for accurate results.
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Homework Statement



An elevator mass 4950 kg is to be designed so that the maximum acceleration is 6.10×10-2g.

What is the maximum force the motor should exert on the supporting cable?

What is the minimum force the motor should exert on the supporting cable?

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\Sigma[\tex]F = ma<br /> <br /> <h2>The Attempt at a Solution</h2><br /> <br /> I know this should be so easy, but Mastering Physics is not liking my answers. I have tried multiplying the combined forces of acceleration and gravity multiplied over the mass to get a large force, that answer was incorrect. I noticed that the units of acceleration is in &#039;g&#039;, which caused me to believe they were referencing that amount multiplied by gravity instead of added to it, which resulted in another answer MP did not like. My results:<br /> <br /> F = 48800 N<br /> F = 2960 N<br /> <br /> Three significant figures, neither of those answers were correct (this is for F<sub>max</sub>). I am afraid I am missing something really critical, and wanted to get another opinion. Maybe I&#039;m approaching this problem in the wrong way?
 
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"combined forces of acceleration and gravity" sounds really good! But doesn't lead to the numbers you got. It would be interesting to see the details of your calculation.
F = ma + mg = ?
 
Well mg + ma does equal 48800 N rounded to the number of significant figures the problem asks for.

The calculation I referred to is: 4950*(g+a), which equals 48900... Hmm...

Well, I only have one guess left, and I know that 48900 is not correct.
 
Ah, you are using a=0.061! It should be a = 0.061*9.81.
 
So it should be calculated as such:

F = mga + mg = 51500N. Is this right?
 
What about finding the minimum force?
 
The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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