Maximum and Minimum Forces for Elevator Design

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the maximum and minimum forces that a motor should exert on the supporting cable of an elevator with a mass of 4950 kg, given a maximum acceleration of 6.10×10-2g. Participants are exploring the relationship between force, mass, and acceleration in the context of elevator design.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of forces using the equation ΣF = ma and express confusion regarding the correct interpretation of acceleration in terms of gravitational force. There are attempts to combine gravitational and acceleration forces, leading to differing results. Questions arise about the correct application of significant figures and the proper conversion of acceleration units.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their calculations and questioning the accuracy of their results. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct interpretation of acceleration, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct maximum force value yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are working under constraints related to significant figures and the specific requirements of the problem, which may be influencing their calculations and interpretations.

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Homework Statement



An elevator mass 4950 kg is to be designed so that the maximum acceleration is 6.10×10-2g.

What is the maximum force the motor should exert on the supporting cable?

What is the minimum force the motor should exert on the supporting cable?

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[tex]\Sigma[\tex]F = ma<br /> <br /> <h2>The Attempt at a Solution</h2><br /> <br /> I know this should be so easy, but Mastering Physics is not liking my answers. I have tried multiplying the combined forces of acceleration and gravity multiplied over the mass to get a large force, that answer was incorrect. I noticed that the units of acceleration is in 'g', which caused me to believe they were referencing that amount multiplied by gravity instead of added to it, which resulted in another answer MP did not like. My results:<br /> <br /> F = 48800 N<br /> F = 2960 N<br /> <br /> Three significant figures, neither of those answers were correct (this is for F<sub>max</sub>). I am afraid I am missing something really critical, and wanted to get another opinion. Maybe I'm approaching this problem in the wrong way?[/tex]
 
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"combined forces of acceleration and gravity" sounds really good! But doesn't lead to the numbers you got. It would be interesting to see the details of your calculation.
F = ma + mg = ?
 
Well mg + ma does equal 48800 N rounded to the number of significant figures the problem asks for.

The calculation I referred to is: 4950*(g+a), which equals 48900... Hmm...

Well, I only have one guess left, and I know that 48900 is not correct.
 
Ah, you are using a=0.061! It should be a = 0.061*9.81.
 
So it should be calculated as such:

F = mga + mg = 51500N. Is this right?
 
What about finding the minimum force?
 

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