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Maximum height of CM of a rotating stick

  1. Nov 27, 2015 #1
    1. The problem statement, all variables and given/known data

    A uniform stick is held horizontally and then released. At the same instant, one end is struck with a quick
    upwards blow. If the stick ends up horizontal when it returns to its original height, what are the possible values
    for the maximum height to which the center rises?

    My attempt at a solution is below. I must be doing something wrong. I just do not know what it is.

    2. Relevant equations


    3. The attempt at a solution

    I tried conservation of energy.

    Ei=Ef (i= initial state (right after the strike) f= final state (CM at maximum height))

    PEi+KEi(transational)+KEi(rotational)=PEf+KEf(transational)+KEf(rotational)

    Taking the origin to be where the stick is initially released => PEi=0
    Maximum height the center of mass (CM) can rise to =>KEf(transational)=0
    The only external force on the stick is gravity, and gravity exerts no torque on the CM of the stick => Σ[PLAIN]https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/8/1/a/81a69207104f00baaabd6f84cafd15a0.png(external)=0 [Broken] and Σ[PLAIN]https://upload.wikimedia.org/math/8/1/a/81a69207104f00baaabd6f84cafd15a0.png=dL/dt [Broken] => dL/dt=0 and L=Iω => ωi=ωf => KEi(rotational)=KEf(rotational)

    => PEi+KEi(transational)+KEi(rotational)=PEf+KEf(transational)+KEf(rotational) will give us
    KEi(transational)=PEf
    => 1/2 (m)(vi)^2=mgh

    =>h=(vi)^2/2g
     
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  3. Nov 27, 2015 #2

    BvU

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    Hello Joe, :welcome:

    I suppose then, that just considering energy is not enough !
    you want to translate this into something you can use someway or other: it means it has completed a half integer number of revolutions at this return to original height. The strike gives the stick upward motion plus rotational motion. These two have to be in a certain relationship that you need to explore and exploit.
     
  4. Nov 27, 2015 #3

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    Everything you wrote looks correct, but it is not heading towards an answer.
    The key fact is that at the moment it has returned to the original height it is once again horizontal. Think about time and rotation rate.

    BvU pipped me, not unusual.
     
  5. Nov 27, 2015 #4
    Thanks all! I solved it. I will post the answer shortly.
     
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