Maximum Number of Bright Fringes on a Diffraction Grating with 620 lines/mm?

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The discussion revolves around a diffraction grating problem involving a grating with 620 lines/mm and light of wavelength 520 nm. Participants are exploring the calculation of the distance between bright fringes and the total number of visible bright fringes on a screen positioned 2.0 m behind the grating.

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  • Participants attempt to apply the diffraction equation m = d(sinθ)/λ to determine the number of bright fringes and the distance between them. There are questions about the correct value of θ and how to interpret the results for m.

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Some participants have provided guidance on interpreting the results, particularly regarding the counting of fringes and the inclusion of the central maximum. There is an ongoing exploration of how to apply the equations correctly and whether assumptions about angles are valid.

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Homework Statement


A diffraction grating with 620 lines per mm is illuminated with light of wavelength 520 nm. A very wide viewing screen is 2.0 m behind the grating. (Note: 1 mm = 10-3 m; 1 nm =10-9 m)
a) What is the distance between the two m=1 bright fringes? (Express your answer in meters)
b) How many bright fringes can be seen on the screen


Homework Equations


m = d(sinθ)/λ
y=Ltanθ

The Attempt at a Solution



A)
d(sinθ)=mλ
=sin-1 (1x(520x10-9)/(1/620 x10-3))
=18.81

y=Ltanθ
tan(18.81)x2
=.34
.34 x 2 x 2 = 1.36 meters

B) ?
m = d(sinθ)/λ
but when I use this equation I do not get the correct answer. I am at a loss if someone can walk me through this part.

Thanks!
 
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kevnm67 said:
B) ?
m = d(sinθ)/λ
but when I use this equation I do not get the correct answer. I am at a loss if someone can walk me through this part.
What did you use for θ?
 
I tried the theta I solved for, 18.81, and 90. I wasn't sure about that part of the equation
 
kevnm67 said:
I tried the theta I solved for, 18.81, and 90. I wasn't sure about that part of the equation
Trying θ = 18.81 will just give you back m = 1, which you already know. θ = 90 is what you want.
 
Alright. When I do that I get 3.1, which is 3.1 x 2 = 6.2 but the answer is 7. What I am doing wrong?

Thanks for your help help!
 
Getting m = 3.1 tells you that the highest order of fringe that you could see would be m = 3. (You won't see m = 4.)

Don't forget the center fringe, where m = 0.
 
Ok, that's what I was thinking...so it's 3 above the central max and 3 below plus 1 b/c you include m=0 ?
 
kevnm67 said:
Ok, that's what I was thinking...so it's 3 above the central max and 3 below plus 1 b/c you include m=0 ?
You got it.
 
Great! thanks for your help.
 
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I have one more question:

To get the value of m=0 do you always add 1?
 
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kevnm67 said:
I have one more question:

To get the value of m=0 do you always add 1?
I don't understand the question. m=0 is the central maximum. (Add 1 to what?)

If you mean: To find the total number of fringes given a maximum value of m, then yes add 1 to 2*mmax.
 
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after solving for the no. of fringes per side of the central max you get 6.2 but must account for m=0, which is why 1 was added to 6.2 and you get 7?
 
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kevnm67 said:
after solving for the no. of fringes per side of the central max you get 6.2 but must account for m=0, which is why 1 was added to 6.2 and you get 7?
Right. Just think in terms of counting them up. 3 fringes on each side of the center plus one in the middle.
 
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great, thanks Doc Al!
 
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Doc Al said:
Right. Just think in terms of counting them up. 3 fringes on each side of the center plus one in the middle.

Doc Al,

I want to run this by you if you get this post...
A 3600 line/cm diffraction grating produces a third-order bright fringe at a 31.0 degree angle.
(Recall: 1 cm = 10-2 m; 1 mm = 10-3 m; 1 nm =10-9 m)
A) What wavelength (in nm) of light is being used?
a. 477 nm b. 1430 nm c. 233 nm
B) What is the distance (in meters) between this third-order bright fringe and the central maximum on the screen 2.0 meters away?
a. 2.4 m b. 1.2 m c. 2.2 m
C) How many total bright fringes can be seen on the screen?
a. 3 b. 5 c. 11

For C) would you do the following:
(1/3600) x 10-2 sin(90)/(477 x 10-9)
= 5.8
so 5 fringes up and 5 fringes down for a total of 10 fringes but to account for the central max you add 1 to get 11, choice C?
And is 90 degrees what you use in every scenario?
 
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kevnm67 said:
For C) would you do the following:
(1/3600) x 10-2 sin(90)/(477 x 10-9)
= 5.8
so 5 fringes up and 5 fringes down for a total of 10 fringes but to account for the central max you add 1 to get 11, choice C?
And is 90 degrees what you use in every scenario?
Yes to all of that. Good!
 
  • #17
Thanks for your help!
 

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