Maxwell-Boltzmann Energy distribution

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average energy of a system with multiple energy states using the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution. The original poster presents equations related to the probability distribution and attempts to derive the average energy from these equations.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to evaluate the partition function and the average energy by manipulating sums. Some participants question the completeness of the original poster's equations and suggest considering additional terms in the calculations.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing feedback on the original poster's attempts. There is recognition of potential errors in the calculations, and suggestions have been made to clarify the expressions used in the average energy formula.

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Participants are navigating through the complexities of summing series and ensuring all terms are accounted for in their calculations. There is an emphasis on careful manipulation of the equations involved in the problem.

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Homework Statement


find the average energy of a system with n energy states (0, 1E, 2E, 3E...nE)

Homework Equations


P(E) = e-BE/Z - where B=1/KbT and Z= ∑e(-BE)n
<E>=∑(nE* (e-BE)n) /Z

The Attempt at a Solution


i feel like I've gone down the correct path - that is finding result of the sums.
Z - if S=R0+R1+...+Rn i do S-RS and get S=R0-Rn+1/1-R ... so Z= e0-e-BE(n+1)/1-eBE
now it gets tricky, i tried to evaluate the sum ∑(nE* (e-BE)n) in a similar way,
so S2=0R0+1R1+2R2...
and RS2=0R+1R2+2R3...
so S2-RS2=S-1 (remember S=Z; "-1" cause R0 is missng)
so S2=(1-e-BE(n+1)/(1-e-BE)2-1/(1-e-BE).

substituting into average fomula and simplifying my answer is: (1/1-e-BE) - (1/1-eBE(n+1))
is this correct?
 
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WrongMan said:
now it gets tricky, i tried to evaluate the sum ∑(nE* (e-BE)n) in a similar way,
so S2=0R0+1R1+2R2...
and RS2=0R+1R2+2R3...
so S2-RS2=S-1 (remember S=Z; "-1" cause R0 is missng)
You're missing a term on the right hand side of the last equation. (Don't forget to consider the last terms in S2 and RS2).
 
TSny said:
You're missing a term on the right hand side of the last equation. (Don't forget to consider the last terms in S2 and RS2).
oh right RS2 ends with nRn+1 so S2 ends with "-nRn+1" (the missing term)
so my new answer is: (1/1-e-BE) + (-1-ne-BE(n+1)/1-e-BE(n+1))
 
OK, that looks right for S2 / Z. But that's not quite the answer for <E>.

When you have expressions like 1/1-e-BE , you should include parentheses around the entire denominator: 1/(1-e-BE).
 

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