Maxwell's equations in higher dimensions.

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The discussion revolves around the application and formulation of Maxwell's equations in higher-dimensional space-time, including considerations of their compatibility with relativity and implications in theories such as Kaluza-Klein and string theory. Participants explore theoretical frameworks, mathematical formulations, and the generalization of concepts like curl in higher dimensions.

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  • One participant notes that Maxwell's equations are compatible with relativity and questions how they can be formulated in higher dimensions, particularly regarding the definition of curl in R^3.
  • Another participant introduces the tensor formulation of Maxwell's equations in special relativity, mentioning the role of the four-current and the need to consider curvature in general relativity.
  • A different viewpoint suggests defining (n+1)-dimensional Maxwell equations using the curl of a vector potential, arguing that the question fits within the scope of the S&GR forum.
  • One participant proposes that generalizing Maxwell's equations using differential forms allows for meaningful extensions into higher dimensions without relying on Kaluza-Klein theories or quantum field theory (QFT).
  • Another participant recommends a resource on string theory that discusses the generalization of Gauss' law in higher dimensions.
  • A later reply suggests that the wedge product is the mathematical tool that relates to the concept of curl in higher dimensions.

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Participants express various perspectives on the formulation of Maxwell's equations in higher dimensions, with no consensus reached on the best approach or the implications of different theories. Some agree on the validity of using differential forms, while others emphasize the need for additional structures in higher-dimensional theories.

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Participants mention limitations regarding the definitions and mathematical devices used, such as the curl and wedge product, without resolving these complexities. The discussion also touches on the distinction between different theoretical frameworks and their applicability to the questions raised.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying theoretical physics, particularly in the areas of electromagnetism, general relativity, and higher-dimensional theories such as string theory.

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I'm not sure if this should go here, or in electrodynamics, or in relativity, but never mind. I'm given to understand that Maxwell's equations are completely compatible with the theory of relativity, and apply over all distance scales. I've also heard of Kaluza-Klein theories in which adding a dimension to space-time results in the equations emerging naturally from the equations of general relativity.
My question is, how do maxwell's equations work in four (or higher)-dimensional space-time when two of them are formulated in terms of curl, which is only defined on R^3?
I guess the same goes for 10+D string theories, although I suspect there the answer has something to do with QFT and the MEs being a classical theory :S
 
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Any ideas?

Admins, could this thread be more appropriate in another forum perhaps?
 
In special relativity, one defines a tensor
F_{\mu\nu} = \left( \begin{matrix}<br /> 0 &amp; \frac{-E_x}{c} &amp; \frac{-E_y}{c} &amp; \frac{-E_z}{c} \\<br /> \frac{E_x}{c} &amp; 0 &amp; -B_z &amp; B_y \\<br /> \frac{E_y}{c} &amp;B_z &amp; 0 &amp; -B_x \\<br /> \frac{E_z}{c} &amp; -B_y &amp; B_x &amp; 0<br /> \end{matrix} \right)
and then Maxwell's equations can be written as derivatives of this *,
\partial_\nu F^{\mu\nu} \propto J^\mu
where J is the four-current (the time-component contains the electric charge distribution \rho and the spatial component is the current vector \vec J).

In general relativity there is a similar expression, but there the curvature of the space-time has to be taken into account (there are factors of \sqrt{|g|} or something like that, but the idea stays the same).

String theories are currently way beyond me, so I can't tell you anything about that.

*) Disclaimer: this is about the right form, didn't check it so might not be entirely correct. For the exact formula's etc. consult a good book, or perhaps Wikipedia.
 
I'll come back to that when I'm a little further in my analysis in my variables course I think... :P
Thanks CompuChip (and to the admin who moved it!)
 
One could define the (n+1)-dimensional Maxwell Equations independent of dimensionality using the "curl" of a vector-potential: \nabla_{[a}A_{b]}. In my opinion, this is an appropriate question for this S&GR forum.

If you instead ask how the usual (3+1)-dimensional Maxwell Equations arise out of an (n+1)-dimensional theory, this is not really an S&GR question any more [since some additional foreign structures would have to be postulated]... and is better suited to BSM https://www.physicsforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=66 .
 
Generalizing Maxwell's equations is very direct if you write them in the notation of differential forms. The electromagnetic field is then represented by the Faraday tensor. This is a closed 2-form (i.e. \mathrm{d} F = 0) satisfying
<br /> \mathrm{d} \star F = J .<br />
Here, the current J is a closed 3-form in the usual 4 dimensional spacetime. It is dual to the 1-form (or covector) current that you're probably more used to.

All of these statements remain remain meaningful when adding dimensions. The only difference is that J becomes a closed (n-1)-form. It is still dual to a covector current, though.

I don't know if this makes any sense to you. If not, you can read up on differential forms at some point. Making Maxwell's equations work in higher dimensions does not require any Kaluza-Klein constructions. It also has nothing to do with QFT.
 
If you're interested, try the first few chapters of Zwiebach's "First Course in String Theory" which generalizes (among other things) Gauss' law in higher dimensions. Definitely worth looking at.
 
Sorry - in terms of your question concerning the curl, I believe the mathematical device that you're looking for is the wedge product which reduces to the ordinary curl in three dimension. Try here for a better discussion.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exterior_algebra
 

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